#1
i am by no means a tube buff, and am pretty much lost as far as choosing the tubes i want to put in the renegade.

i am confident that i will be able to install them and bias them, its just that i dont know what to pick or what my options are.

let the juices start flowing.
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#2
I've always been curious, but too lazy to look or ask - do all Egnaters come with JJs in the power section and Sovteks in the preamp section, or just my Rebel? Either way, give Mullards a try, as well as Tungsols. If you have more money, go for NOS tubes, but I know less about those than some dudes on here.
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#3
seriously you have like all the gear that im GASing for lol.

for el34 jjs are good brand, and for 6l6 id say for for SED or sovtek

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I've always been curious, but too lazy to look or ask - do all Egnaters come with JJs in the power section and Sovteks in the preamp section, or just my Rebel? Either way, give Mullards a try, as well as Tungsols. If you have more money, go for NOS tubes, but I know less about those than some dudes on here.

all th egenaters ive seen come with groovetubes stock. mullard and tungsol are also good, but damn, NOS is BS. if anything they are worse than new production because even though while not in use the parts have degraded over time, as anything does.
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#5
If it's EL34, SED =C= are, IMO, the best damn new production EL34s there are.

I've tried JJs, Tung Sols, Mullard reissues - won't consider anything else after trying these.

For 6L6, I can't help you.
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#6
SED =C= and especially Ruby EL34BHTs (just used in my Baron) are great tubes.

6L6s, I liked Tung-Sol but I'd look here.

- http://thetubestore.com/6l6costello.html
- http://thetubestore.com/6l6templeton.html

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all th egenaters ive seen come with groovetubes stock. mullard and tungsol are also good, but damn, NOS is BS. if anything they are worse than new production because even though while not in use the parts have degraded over time, as anything does.


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Explain to me how things degrades in a vacuum. Fact is that tubes were made to a higher and more consistent standard back then. Along with the material differences, it makes for a fairly different tube.

TS, I'd recommend =C= in the power section, your choice in the preamp. JJs, Tung Sols and Shuguang are a nice modern production start.
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all th egenaters ive seen come with groovetubes stock. mullard and tungsol are also good, but damn, NOS is BS. if anything they are worse than new production because even though while not in use the parts have degraded over time, as anything does.

Not much going on above the neck, is there?

The NOS tubes are all military grade products, with usable lifespans far exceeding the new production stuff. It's also rather hard for parts to degrade in a sealed vaccum and, being NEW old stock, they're completely unused.

That said, unless you're made of money I wouldn't go NOS for anything other than preamp tubes, since they have hours upon hours of playtime available.

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#10
this is to answer how i know they are dieing. the answer is i am not positive, but i hear loud popping and crackeling on both channels when the amp is on and switched to the play position, when i am playing or when i am not.

does that sound about right?

before asking any other questions, i want to confirm.
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#11
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TS, I'd recommend =C= in the power section, your choice in the preamp. JJs, Tung Sols and Shuguang are a nice modern production start.



what does the =C= mean? sorry i am unfamiliar and this is the second reference to it.
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#12
It's a brand of tubes made in St. Petersburg. They're also known as SED or are commonly referred to as Winged C. IMO, they make the best new production EL34 and 6L6. They were formerly known as Svetlana until Mike Matthews of E/H sued them for the name.
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#13
It's just the brand. You want SED Winged Cs.
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#14
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this is to answer how i know they are dieing. the answer is i am not positive, but i hear loud popping and crackeling on both channels when the amp is on and switched to the play position, when i am playing or when i am not.

does that sound about right?

before asking any other questions, i want to confirm.


loud popping and crackling is often an indication of an overly microphonic preamp tube(s), not power tubes. Before you spend a bunch of cash on power tubes, I'd find your potential preamp tube culprit and try swapping that out. For now you can swap some of the existing preamp tubes around note any differences in sound while keeping good track of which one is which. You can write a small number or something on each one with a permanent marker.

or follow this guide I made to find microphonic preamp tubes.

http://s545.photobucket.com/albums/hh384/buckethead_311/Amp%20stuff/?action=view&current=Microphonicpreamptube.flv

PS: dying power tubes will often manifest themselves as a loss of volume.