#1
ok so i took apart my first guitar and i need some new Pups, insofar i really don't have any leads so far. so what i need from you guys is your expertise and recommendations. I usually have it in drop A, so i need a Pup that is good with the deep bass and strong distortion. now here's the twist, the guitar has 2 single coils (neck and middle) and humbucker in the bridge.
what im looking for:
a bridge pup that can can deep punchy lows with a screaming high.
the middle pup i wont really use so i giess I'll leave the stock in there (unless you guys can provide a good pickup that will be useful)
and a single coil neck pup that is strong at maintaining distortion while not being muddy, it's primary use will be soloing and sw33pz so i need it to sing on the highs and be relatively smooth.

well? what do you guys have in mind?
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lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


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#3
well im broke right now, so i just need to know what to save for lol, getting some paid gigs soon and im looking forward to blowing my cash on gear again.
how about this: use best judgement on the prices? (i.e. not crazy expensive)
Quote by ATREYUFAN4LIFE

lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


Call me Mike, all my friends do.
#4
c'mon guys how much more do i have to kiss your ass?
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lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


Call me Mike, all my friends do.
#5
For the bridge, look into the Evolution maybe, and for the others you can look at the hot rails.
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#6
looking at the evolution it doesn't seem to be what im looking for.
edit:
im looking at the Seymour Duncan Invader SH-8 or the Seymour Duncan full shred
any "reviews" pertaining to what im looking for?
Quote by ATREYUFAN4LIFE

lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


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Last edited by lifesuckstomuch at Aug 18, 2010,
#7
Whatever pickups are in schecters seems like everyone likes them...lol

I'm being sarcastic

I'd check into some EMGs if I was you even though it kills me to say that it may bbe what you need
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#8
im looking for passives, i already have a set of EMGs in my other Guitar. i don't see why everyone keeps QQing over the EMGs my 81/89 setup sounds really good.
like i said im looking passives mainly because this is my first project guitar and i don't want to have to deal with making them fit.

anybody else?
edit:
its looking like
SD Invader vs Dimarzio Super 3 vs Dimarzio D-Activator for the bridge right now
Quote by ATREYUFAN4LIFE

lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


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Last edited by lifesuckstomuch at Aug 18, 2010,
#9
aight contribooters im sold on the Invader. not i need a single coil neck Pup. halp?
Quote by ATREYUFAN4LIFE

lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


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#10
look into bareknuckle pickups, maybe the warpig for the bridge and some trilogy suite single coils for the neck and mid, can't speak from experience but they're pretty high on my GAS list
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#11
they seem pretty meh to me
nothing really jumps out at me, and im not really looking for british tone
plus everything is in euro, im not about to order over seas for a Pup
Quote by ATREYUFAN4LIFE

lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


Call me Mike, all my friends do.
Last edited by lifesuckstomuch at Aug 18, 2010,
#12
Quote by lifesuckstomuch
they seem pretty meh to me
nothing really jumps out at me, and im not really looking for british tone
plus everything is in euro, im not about to order over seas for a Pup



www.guitarasylum.com best prices on quality pickups I've ever seen.

I have a BKP Painkiller in the bridge and I'm waiting on my Trilogy Suites, but that PK is about the punchiest pickup I've ever heard, makes 18 volt EMG's look like a mouse being crushed by an elephant.

You buy a BKP pickup, I promise you, you will not be dissapointed, expensive as hell though, I spent over $300 on my set up.

But a good HB for you would be the DiMarzio ToneZone, very versatile pickup, my neighbor swears by it. As for single coils, I like DiMarzio's Area 58, 61, or 67 pickups, but you have to watch the outputs, if the output is alot different than your bridge, you'll run into volume problems.

Don't know much about the single coils, but if you use them for heavy gain leads, then you'll want ceramic magnet single coils with alot of output. I say ceramic magnets instead of Alcino because they give a more modern sound, alcino give a more vintage tone, especially in single coils.
#13
More in price range, check out the dimarzion d sonic and crunch lab for the bridge,

for neck a good question arises, I don't know mich about single coils, but what he says about magnet types is basically true, but with high quality pups like rock monkey, motor city, and bare knuckles, they don't really sound vintage IMO

d activators are pretty good but not life changing and I've only ever heard bad things about the invaders honestly, but there are good reviews and the guitarists for avenged sevenfold use them so idk

hope that helps
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#14
actually the guitarist for avenged sevenfold doesnt use invaders anymore. he used to but if you watch the new nightmare music video he has another seymour duncan set in his guitar.
#15
Quote by ethan_hanus
www.guitarasylum.com best prices on quality pickups I've ever seen.

I have a BKP Painkiller in the bridge and I'm waiting on my Trilogy Suites, but that PK is about the punchiest pickup I've ever heard, makes 18 volt EMG's look like a mouse being crushed by an elephant.

You buy a BKP pickup, I promise you, you will not be dissapointed, expensive as hell though, I spent over $300 on my set up.

But a good HB for you would be the DiMarzio ToneZone, very versatile pickup, my neighbor swears by it. As for single coils, I like DiMarzio's Area 58, 61, or 67 pickups, but you have to watch the outputs, if the output is alot different than your bridge, you'll run into volume problems.

Don't know much about the single coils, but if you use them for heavy gain leads, then you'll want ceramic magnet single coils with alot of output. I say ceramic magnets instead of Alcino because they give a more modern sound, alcino give a more vintage tone, especially in single coils.


do you even read the threads? i told you specifically what i was looking for, i don't need versatility bullshit, that's why i have 5 different guitars all with different setups.

Quote by Metalmaker
More in price range, check out the dimarzion d sonic and crunch lab for the bridge,

for neck a good question arises, I don't know mich about single coils, but what he says about magnet types is basically true, but with high quality pups like rock monkey, motor city, and bare knuckles, they don't really sound vintage IMO

d activators are pretty good but not life changing and I've only ever heard bad things about the invaders honestly, but there are good reviews and the guitarists for avenged sevenfold use them so idk

hope that helps

guys really need to read the thread
i dont give a shit about vintage, i listed out exactly what i was looking for, if you don't have anything to recommend, or something to Pups i put out there as possibilities GTFO the thread

Quote by kiaba94
actually the guitarist for avenged sevenfold doesnt use invaders anymore. he used to but if you watch the new nightmare music video he has another seymour duncan set in his guitar.

i like their old sound anyway
Karl Sanders + Syn = me sold on invaders for bridge
Quote by ATREYUFAN4LIFE

lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


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#17
thanks mang! you're the first person to actually contribute!
looks pretty good ill do more research on the morrow. but please keep the ideas coming.
Quote by ATREYUFAN4LIFE

lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


Call me Mike, all my friends do.
#18
Quote by edbert
look into bareknuckle pickups, maybe the Coldsweat for the bridge and some trilogy suite single coils for the neck and mid, can't speak from experience but they're pretty high on my GAS list


+1
#19
Quote by lifesuckstomuch
do you even read the threads? i told you specifically what i was looking for, i don't need versatility bullshit, that's why i have 5 different guitars all with different setups.


guys really need to read the thread
i dont give a shit about vintage, i listed out exactly what i was looking for, if you don't have anything to recommend, or something to Pups i put out there as possibilities GTFO the thread


i like their old sound anyway
Karl Sanders + Syn = me sold on invaders for bridge


I did read your first post dip shit, and your extremely vague description makes us have to guess all sorts of pickups, "deep bass and strong distortion"? That can be any damn aftermarket pickup you can think of. "deep punchy lows and screaming highs"? WTF man, your vague as shit.

You want nice pickups, use google damnit, here I'll help:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/sh5_duncan_cust/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/sh6_duncan_dist/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/sh4_jb_model/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/stratocaster/progressive/quarter_pound_f/
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-Tone-Zone-Guitar-Pickup?sku=302430
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP228-Crunch-Lab-Bridge-Humbucker-Pickup?sku=583023
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP227-LiquiFire-Neck-Humbucker-Pickup?sku=583022
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP159-Evolution-Bridge-Pickup?sku=302960
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP184-Chopper-Pickup?sku=302460
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP180-Air-Norton-S-Strat-Pickup?sku=300291
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP188-Pro-Track-Pickup?sku=302326
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP420-Virtual-Solo-Bridge-Hum-Canceling-Strat-Pickup?sku=340007
http://www.rockmonkeyguitars.com/swingin_hot.htm
http://www.rockmonkeyguitars.com/hot_neobucker.htm
http://www.rockmonkeyguitars.com/beefbucker.htm
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZS-trilogysuite.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-holydiver.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-coldsweat.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-miracleman.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-nailbomb.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-warpig.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-painkiller.html

Pick one you jackass.
#21
If you want advice from us, being a Douchy McDouchedouche doesn't help, FYI.

And I wouldn't buy the Invader just because the guys from A7X use 'em. I can tell you that after doing that kind of thing for a couple years, it doesn't work.

Do you want active pickups or would you prefer to stay passive?
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#22
Quote by ethan_hanus
I did read your first post dip shit, and your extremely vague description makes us have to guess all sorts of pickups, "deep bass and strong distortion"? That can be any damn aftermarket pickup you can think of. "deep punchy lows and screaming highs"? WTF man, your vague as shit.

You want nice pickups, use google damnit, here I'll help:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/sh5_duncan_cust/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/sh6_duncan_dist/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/progressive/sh4_jb_model/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/stratocaster/progressive/quarter_pound_f/
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-Tone-Zone-Guitar-Pickup?sku=302430
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP228-Crunch-Lab-Bridge-Humbucker-Pickup?sku=583023
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP227-LiquiFire-Neck-Humbucker-Pickup?sku=583022
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP159-Evolution-Bridge-Pickup?sku=302960
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP184-Chopper-Pickup?sku=302460
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP180-Air-Norton-S-Strat-Pickup?sku=300291
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP188-Pro-Track-Pickup?sku=302326
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-DP420-Virtual-Solo-Bridge-Hum-Canceling-Strat-Pickup?sku=340007
http://www.rockmonkeyguitars.com/swingin_hot.htm
http://www.rockmonkeyguitars.com/hot_neobucker.htm
http://www.rockmonkeyguitars.com/beefbucker.htm
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZS-trilogysuite.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-holydiver.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-coldsweat.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-miracleman.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-nailbomb.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-warpig.html
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/ZH-painkiller.html

Pick one you jackass.

u mad bro?
i stayed a little vague for the purpose of getting more than one suggestion. herp derp.
but any way, how is, "strong low end, distorts well, with punchiness. vague? that's exactly what im looking for, im come to this forum for not only suggestions but anecdotes about which Pups people have tried, and what they actually sounded like to their ear.


Quote by Junnage
If you want advice from us, being a Douchy McDouchedouche doesn't help, FYI.

And I wouldn't buy the Invader just because the guys from A7X use 'em. I can tell you that after doing that kind of thing for a couple years, it doesn't work.

Do you want active pickups or would you prefer to stay passive?

wasn't being a douche, im just used to people actually being helpful in this section. it's called "irritation" i believe

as i stated earlier, i want to stay passive because i don't want to deal with making EMGs fit in my strat knockoff.
and this isn't my first pickup swap, but it is my first project guitar. i know what im looking for in a Pup, i was still deciding which Pup to go with fro my bridge when i noticed that not only Syn used this pickup, but Karl fucking Sanders uses it, which basically tells me that with the two DIFFERENT styles that they play, this Pup is ideal for what im looking for.
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lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


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Last edited by lifesuckstomuch at Aug 19, 2010,
#23
Quote by lifesuckstomuch
they seem pretty meh to me
nothing really jumps out at me, and im not really looking for british tone
plus everything is in euro, im not about to order over seas for a Pup


there's nothing 'meh' about BKP, and for the love of god, don't put invaders in anything. thanks.

EDIT: Just read through the entire post. You're clearly acting like a dick, so buy two invaders, cut one in half to use as single coils, crank the gain on your MG to 11, scoop your mids, then shove your guitar directly up your ass. You'll have the greatest tone your bedroom has ever seen. Douche.
Last edited by GrisKy at Aug 19, 2010,
#24
Quote by GrisKy
there's nothing 'meh' about BKP, and for the love of god, don't put invaders in anything. thanks.

EDIT: Just read through the entire post. You're clearly acting like a dick, so buy two invaders, cut one in half to use as single coils, crank the gain on your MG to 11, scoop your mids, then shove your guitar directly up your ass. You'll have the greatest tone your bedroom has ever seen. Douche.

wow man you're so clever
i think u just mad because i don't hop on board the bandwagon with you're BKP shit.
u mad bro? i think u mad. you seem to swear by them, but i haven't even seen anything that backs you up. QQ some more then talk to me.
and mr. clever over here, i don't like british things (as i posted earlier in this thread) so how in the world would i have a marshall? kthxbai


also:
Quote by Way Cool JR.
Look into the GFS Power Rails or the Crunchy Rails but the Power rails put out more bass. They are bad ass Pups for the money and they hang with the active pups but they are passives. GFS pups are pretty bad ass and high quality you can here demos on you tube. The Rails kick the Invaders ass in sound.

HERE is the page of pups scroll down to the middle for the Rails

HERE Is the page of the single coil size pups.

thank you sir for your kind input.

edit: im liking those power rails, and the lil' killer looks interesting, do you know anything about the lil killer?
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lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


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Last edited by lifesuckstomuch at Aug 19, 2010,
#25
Yeah, I guess I'm mad that one day I might accidentally listen to you make music and have to suffer through your horrible excuse for tone.

Nothing British huh? That's about a retard thing to say. Enjoy your not-Celestion speakers.

Don't like to hop on bandwagons? Quit trying to get invaders just because A7X used them.
Last edited by GrisKy at Aug 19, 2010,
#26
Quote by lifesuckstomuch
u mad bro?
i stayed a little vague for the purpose of getting more than one suggestion. herp derp.
but any way, how is, "strong low end, distorts well, with punchiness. vague? that's exactly what im looking for, im come to this forum for not only suggestions but anecdotes about which Pups people have tried, and what they actually sounded like to their ear.


wasn't being a douche, im just used to people actually being helpful in this section. it's called "irritation" i believe

as i stated earlier, i want to stay passive because i don't want to deal with making EMGs fit in my strat knockoff.
and this isn't my first pickup swap, but it is my first project guitar. i know what im looking for in a Pup, i was still deciding which Pup to go with fro my bridge when i noticed that not only Syn used this pickup, but Karl fucking Sanders uses it, which basically tells me that with the two DIFFERENT styles that they play, this Pup is ideal for what im looking for.


Look dipshit, I gave you all good pickups. I can give you a tone test of my BKP Painkiller since you say you don't like british sounding pickups, my PK makes your invader look like a little whimpering dog.

Check it, I just did this with Nick Crows 8505(Peavey 6505): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8920099/Something%20Unexpected%20first%20song%20part.mp3
#27
Quote by ethan_hanus
Look dipshit, I gave you all good pickups. I can give you a tone test of my BKP Painkiller since you say you don't like british sounding pickups, my PK makes your invader look like a little whimpering dog.

Check it, I just did this with Nick Crows 8505(Peavey 6505): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8920099/Something%20Unexpected%20first%20song%20part.mp3

u mad bro?
now don't get me wrong the sound nice, something i'd put into my RG maybe, for my thrashy stuff, but im looking for more low end punch, although that may have just been your amp/settings
u listen to NILE at all? the reason im pretty set on the invaders is because how good Sanders sounds on the albums and live, he's heavy but clear.

Quote by GrisKy
Yeah, I guess I'm mad that one day I might accidentally listen to you make music and have to suffer through your horrible excuse for tone.

Nothing British huh? That's about a retard thing to say. Enjoy your not-Celestion speakers.

Don't like to hop on bandwagons? Quit trying to get invaders just because A7X used them.

oh man another UG bandwagon! Celestion speakers are the greatest speakers of all time!
how is liking the tone that's coming out of someone's guitar... i like how you grasp onto a7x but completely ignore Karl Sanders, of NILE, oh yeah im a real trend follower there, being a NILE fan and all.
man i was really following the crowd when i picked up sounding the seventh trumpet back in '01 you're such a tough guy acting like you know everything, i wish some '05er could come in and laugh at you.
and if you heard me play you'd probably cry yourself to sleep and never touch your guitar again after hearing all the things you have no hope of never having the ability to recreate.
btw i never i said nothing british i said i didnlt like british sound (i.e. amp voicings) herp derp
Quote by ATREYUFAN4LIFE

lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


Call me Mike, all my friends do.
Last edited by lifesuckstomuch at Aug 19, 2010,
#28
bump to lol at the 330 views
Quote by ATREYUFAN4LIFE

lol wowow you guys dont know good music then... get out of your deth metal and screamo ruts and listen to something that has emotion in the music...


Call me Mike, all my friends do.
#29
Quote by lifesuckstomuch
u mad bro?
now don't get me wrong the sound nice, something i'd put into my RG maybe, for my thrashy stuff, but im looking for more low end punch, although that may have just been your amp/settings
u listen to NILE at all? the reason im pretty set on the invaders is because how good Sanders sounds on the albums and live, he's heavy but clear.


oh man another UG bandwagon! Celestion speakers are the greatest speakers of all time!
how is liking the tone that's coming out of someone's guitar... i like how you grasp onto a7x but completely ignore Karl Sanders, of NILE, oh yeah im a real trend follower there, being a NILE fan and all.
man i was really following the crowd when i picked up sounding the seventh trumpet back in '01 you're such a tough guy acting like you know everything, i wish some '05er could come in and laugh at you.
and if you heard me play you'd probably cry yourself to sleep and never touch your guitar again after hearing all the things you have no hope of never having the ability to recreate.
btw i never i said nothing british i said i didnlt like british sound (i.e. amp voicings) herp derp



I can make stock Squier pickups sound that heavy and clear with a shit tone of tracking and VST's, don't be an idiot for God's sake and listen to the people who know this shit.

What you hear on the album is not the ****ing pickup, it's about 100 different things combined, amp, quad tracking, bass supporting the bass frequencies of the guitar, drums, everything is adding to the guitars, and couple of days of professional EQing.

Invaders are shitty pickups by themselves, the pickups I recommended are both American voiced and British voice, you pick, and all of them are better than the Invader at everything.

The DiMarzio Tone Zone will wipe the floor with the Invader, so will the Duncan Super Distortion, so the Neyobuckers will eat both alive, with a 25k resistance it's just insane. My PK is only has a 15.3k resistance, and it still sounds pretty punchy with a tight bass response. The reason my track sounds a bit thin is cause it's just guitar and drums, high passed at 250hz, no bass guitar, the bass guitar would fill the 250hz, but it's not there.

Your being an arrogant little piss ant, don't make me get Ryan and Beefmo in here.
You ask for help and then start showing us attitude because we haven't catered to your exact needs right away, didn't your mama teach you any manners boy?

I'm pissed at you arrogance now. You should of went to the official pickup thread anyways.

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