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So I decided to buy a Peavey 6505+ with a Marshall 1960a cab after watching countless videos, reading hundreds of reviews and other such stuff.

I've been playing around with it for a while and it just sounds terrible, I can't get a sound out of it that isn't weak, even with the post on 4, I can get an amazing low end sound, your chuggy sort of stuff, but playing with the same setting the highs sound weak and aweful. I have to run a frigging compressor in front of this thing to get it to sound half-decent.

I'm running the pre on 6, any lower and the lows sound aweful, you know what I mean, that really weak and boring sound.

There are no broken cables, and I'm running it dry with no pedals, guitar is a high end Schecter that is working fine, tested on another amp and just had new strings.

This was one of the videos that persuaded me to get this head and amp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yaN-RrrT44

Basically he is running it with the post on 1 and the pre on like 4.5, using these exact same settings, the sound I'm receiving is no where near as strong as his, anyone have any ideas? Could it be a faulty head or something, I can record demos if necessary.

Thanks.
Last edited by KarmaShade at Aug 20, 2010,
#2
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Uhh why?
TS the first time I tried a 6505+ it sounded weak and harsh and it turned me off them for years to come. The second one I tried I fell in love with and bought on the spot. I suspect you might have bad tubes.
#5
well, its a peavey.

lol just kidding.

change tubes?

arent these amps made to do chugga chugga low low stuff? (and nothing else? :p)
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#6
Yeah I feel ya, I'm trading my 6505+ halfstack for a peavey classic 50 212 tomorrow, I can't wait to get rid of the thing.
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Tubes bro, tubes.
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Uhh why?
TS the first time I tried a 6505+ it sounded weak and harsh and it turned me off them for years to come. The second one I tried I fell in love with and bought on the spot. I suspect you might have bad tubes.

I was assuming that a 6505 fan boy will come in and flame him to death. Then I realized that this is GG&A, not EG.

TS, maybe it's just not what you expected?

I came close to buying a 5150 recently, decided against it. I'm not big on br00tz. But I should think that the 6505+ wouldn't sound as bad as you're describing it, it's a fairly popular and good sounding amp for what it's used for. I'm thinking maybe the tubes are a dud. Did the guy in the video have a Marshall Lead cab like yours? Maybe you could return the cab and get something with different speakers.
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What's your EQ?
What's your guitar?

Compressor?

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#13
I'm using a Marshall lead, same one as in the video I posted.

I've tried using the exact same settings as the guy in the video, which were:
Pre gain: 4.5
Low: 7
Mid: 8
High: 5.5
Post gain: 1
Resonance : 6.5
Prescence: 4

Sounds aweful, tried tweaking them in sooo many ways, same result. After getting annoyed with it I decided to see what it was like with a compressor, slightly better, not using it though at the moment, forget I mentioned it.

Is there any well to tell that it is the tubes, it is a hastle to send this thing back and get another.
#14
My 5150 isn't chuggy at all...

Then again it had been rebiased and retubed when I purchased it.
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#17
I guess I can put it down to something is wrong with this amp, I know what they sound like and it sure as hell ain't this.

The tubes look fine, is there anyway to tell for sure if there is something wrong with them?
#18
make sure they arent red, shake them slightly and if you heard any dead lightbulb noise somethings wrong, tube tester etc..

try to find one at a GC near you or somewhere and see if it sounds the same?
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I've just put it on standby for about 2mins then turned it off, I can hear little clicks coming from the head, maybe a dumb question but is that normal?

Also it hums while on standby is this normal? Pretty much a newbie to tubes.
Last edited by KarmaShade at Aug 20, 2010,
#21
The amp is supposed to open up a bit more with the Presence and resonance near dimed.

To counteract the high presence, turn the treble down.. and the mids are good around the 5 mark. or maybe even a little lower. adjust the bass where you want it.. and the gain where you want it.. see what happens.

Also, maybe the 5150 just doesn't that good with that particular cabinet?
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#22
The clicks are no big deal...it's the tubes contracting while they cool.

I would try a little less mids, and maybe a touch more highs, see where that gets you.
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#23
If you are using a schecter. A compressor pedal makes it a bit better.... It may be that you have active pickups and the batteries are dying. Have you checked that if you do have actives in the schecter?
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#25
Running passive pickups, I'm certain that this amp isn't going to sound stronger with EQing alone and I know it isn't supposed to sound like this, I don't want to have to rely on a compressor to make it sound good, for how much I paid it should sound good alone.

I can only really think that there is something wrong with the head, but the tubes look fine, it just sounds so weak, when everyone calls it so brootal, not that I want a super brootal tone.
#27
Then I am at a loss. I used a 5150 in a rehearsal room once and it sounded pretty terrible. It did however look neglected so could of probably done with some new tubes. Maybe take it to a tech and see if the tubes do need replacing?
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#29
hmm, thanks for your input guys, I have a two year warranty on it, so I may just get them to swap it, just to make sure, if I upload a sound clip for you guys, would you be able to tell whether something is up with it or not?

Thanks.
#30
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make sure they arent red, shake them slightly and if you heard any dead lightbulb noise somethings wrong, tube tester etc..

try to find one at a GC near you or somewhere and see if it sounds the same?

Yeah, go ahead and don't do that. You'll kill all of your tubes.
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#31
So you only just got it...?

Check if you have the ohms matched up right. Did you turn it on without a cab connected. Don't worry it happens...

Other than that spend more time with it, try your own settings. Its all we can help you with
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#32
Yeah, I know that the ohms are correct, I only ever turned it on once without the load connected, would this have effected it in anyway, it would have been on with the load disconnected for no longer than 5 seconds and 30 seconds on standby possibly.
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Are you using a speaker cable to connect the two?
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#35
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Yeah, I know that the ohms are correct, I only ever turned it on once without the load connected, would this have effected it in anyway, it would have been on with the load disconnected for no longer than 5 seconds and 30 seconds on standby possibly.

Turning on an amp without a speaker loud is a pretty sweet way to break it.

Don't do it again.
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Yeah, go ahead and don't do that. You'll kill all of your tubes.
Only if he tries to do it while the amp is on. And even then, he's only gonna kill one tube because his fingers will get fried.
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#37
Arn't some 6505 head biassed to cold? Someone told me that after i tried a 6505 head which sounded lifeless.
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#38
You just learned one of the most important things in the life of a musician.


Don't buy gear based on judgments you make in a video. The amp is going to sound a bit different in person and that might be enough for you to not enjoy the amp. Mics aren't going to perceive how the amp will react with your playing and gear. You need to remember that.


Really what you should do is maybe try using the crunch channel instead of the lead channel. You need to have a bit of volume too as the 5150/6505 sound very harsh at lower volumes from my experience.
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#39
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I'm using a Marshall lead, same one as in the video I posted.

I've tried using the exact same settings as the guy in the video, which were:
Pre gain: 4.5
Low: 7
Mid: 8
High: 5.5
Post gain: 1
Resonance : 6.5
Prescence: 4



Turn it up?
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