#1
I've been looking into a Jet City JCA2112RC because I need a new amp for metal. I've heard it can do a good br00tz sound but i also wanna have good cleans. The amp only has one channel and id like to be able to switch from clean to br00tz for live situations quickly. I was thinking of possibly dialing in a clean tone on the amp and using some sort of distortion pedal for the metal tones, but this would mean that i wouldn't use the built in gain on the amp, which ive heard is its strong point. Also, ive heard the cleans on the amp aren't so great, so maybe that idea wouldnt be great. If somebody could give me some advice that'd be great. I am on a budget of about $300-400 (this amp fits right in). Thanks!

Heres a link to the amp in you need it btw:
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Jet-City-Amplification-JCA2112RC-20W-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=583601
#2
i have this amp just finished a jam session on it actually, trying to dial in a good metal tone. this amp is very strange. it falls one gain stage short of metal, but has (near) enough gain for it. if that makes sense. i think i might be trying to say there isnt enough saturation? idk amp terms are different to most people lol. anyway, it sounds good, but kind of harsh and it just doesnt feel right. like not fluid enough. idk how itd be with a boost but id assume itd be alot better. or maybe its just because its 20w. idk. it can do it, but try it out with a boost first. also, if youre using it to play brootz id go with the head and a separate cab, the speaker on this is really muddy and makes the low end fall apart and seem weak. almost like the "farting" noise you hear people talk about when you do chugs.
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#3
also keep in mind that the Jet City has a quite a bit of feedback - probably its biggest weak point. If you intend to do br00tz with a boost in front, gonna want a noise gate.
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also keep in mind that the Jet City has a quite a bit of feedback - probably its biggest weak point. If you intend to do br00tz with a boost in front, gonna want a noise gate.

I dunno what was wrong with the one you played, but I can turn the gain all the way up on mine and dime the volume and have completely controllable feedback
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also keep in mind that the Jet City has a quite a bit of feedback - probably its biggest weak point. If you intend to do br00tz with a boost in front, gonna want a noise gate.

yours has quite a lot of feedback, i dont think anyone else has had that issue. maybe a few people, but not the majority. not really worth continually saying the amp has a problem, when its only a couple of them that do. or at least stop making it sound like all of them have that problem. mine has some noise, but not much. and feedback? only when i want it.


kmac, this probably isnt the amp for you if you want to go quickly between clean and gain. it does great gain sounds and borders on the metal territory (gets there with the right speaker and a boost), but it wont go quickly to clean from there. it goes from crunch to gritty cleans by rolling off your volume knob, but a bigger change than that means you do not want a single channel amp.
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I thought it sounded kinda weird for metal. Like it was too...I dunno, smooth-but-grainy. Great for hard rock. Metal? Meh, not so much.

And MC, how many times did you layer that?
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And MC, how many times did you layer that?

It's only single-tracked on each side

The DIs for the song are quad tracked, but that takes too long, plus I want people to be able to hear the actual tone of the amp, not the tone of the amp when layered with a second track of it

That track is also not boosted, and is through my Emperor 1x12 cab, instead of my Mesa 4x12 like the others - so it keeps the "mini stack" feel to it.
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It's only single-tracked on each side

The DIs for the song are quad tracked, but that takes too long, plus I want people to be able to hear the actual tone of the amp, not the tone of the amp when layered with a second track of it

That track is also not boosted, and is through my Emperor 1x12 cab, instead of my Mesa 4x12 like the others - so it keeps the "mini stack" feel to it.

hm... Maybe it was just me but it sounded really nasally to my ears. I much preferred the tone of the 2203 and the Bogner. More powerful sounding.
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hm... Maybe it was just me but it sounded really nasally to my ears. I much preferred the tone of the 2203 and the Bogner. More powerful sounding.

Probably because of the 1x12 cab and the fact that both the 2203 and Bogner are boosted, because neither one has nearly enough gain for that song by themselves. The fact that the JCA does have enough gain is impressive enough in itself

Though I don't really like the Duende clip, it sounded much better in the room.
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#11
I have no experience with this particular amp but I bet an eq and sonic maximizer in the effects loop would give you the ability to dial in a tight, punchy metal gain tone.
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I have no experience with this particular amp but I bet an eq and sonic maximizer in the effects loop would give you the ability to dial in a tight, punchy metal gain tone.

It doesn't have an effects loop
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Probably because of the 1x12 cab and the fact that both the 2203 and Bogner are boosted, because neither one has nearly enough gain for that song by themselves. The fact that the JCA does have enough gain is impressive enough in itself

Though I don't really like the Duende clip, it sounded much better in the room.

True! With that being said, when I played the JCA20H through a VK412 (yes, I know, craptastic cab), I hated it. It had this weird tone to it that I just hated.
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I dunno what was wrong with the one you played, but I can turn the gain all the way up on mine and dime the volume and have completely controllable feedback

Well the one I OWN doesn't have feedback really - just a bit of hum with the volume dimed. I didn't word my statement very well

But for some people any hum at all is a huge nuisance, which is why I let people know about it.

EDIT: Yeah, jof, I've been exaggerating it a bit - it's not a huge amount of feedback - just some noise/hum that some might find undesirable.
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