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#1
Hello Ultimate guitar users! I've been attempting to find myself a simple rig. Just a guitar going directly into an amp and I have decided to sell ALL my gear in order to fund this.

I already know what amp I am after and that is a bugera 333XL or a Bugera 6262

The budget is £400 or $620.

I play metal and I would like

Active pickups
floyd of some sort
24 frets
EMG's.

Thanks
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#3
Not too keen on Schecter. Nothing wrong about them, just I found their necks to be really fat and I'm in the UK so Agiles a no no.

Are they're any Ibanez's that come with active pick ups as stock?
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

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Last edited by Fisheth24 at Aug 22, 2010,
#4
Heh, I love them 'cause of their fat necks :P

Anyway, not too sure with the Ibanez's around your budget. Perhaps its worth saving up a little more before you sell all your stuff to buy a new guitar?
#5
Quote by Fisheth24
Not too keen on Schecter. Nothing wrong about them, just I found their necks to be really fat and I'm in the UK so Agiles a no no.

Are they're any Ibanez's that come with active pick ups as stock?


The ART series, and the discontinued RGT6EXFX, but both are fixed bridges.
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#6
Damn. Any other suggestions?
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#7
Well, let me ask you, have you ever worked with a floyd-style trem before? They're not easy to deal with, and they're a pain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
MOMMY MAD 'CAUSE I MADE A BOOM ON THE RUG

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#8
Nope i've never used one before lol.
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#9
You're not going to get a emg equipped schecter or esp for that price unless you go used in the uk anyway.
#10
Well if/when you get one, the best way learning is by experience, I mean, I dont say you should try to F up but you know, youll never learn if you dont try. We have the FR setup guide so thatll help you out.

Anyway, any wishes on shape? as ESP LTD makes les paul shapes, super-strat shapes, V and RR shapes and even an explorer shape. I prefer the super-strat shape, how bout you?

Also, anything about bolt-on/neck-thru/set-neck?

Go check the LTDs out, their great.
#11
Quote by fc89konkari
Well if/when you get one, the best way learning is by experience, I mean, I dont say you should try to F up but you know, youll never learn if you dont try. We have the FR setup guide so thatll help you out.

Anyway, any wishes on shape? as ESP LTD makes les paul shapes, super-strat shapes, V and RR shapes and even an explorer shape. I prefer the super-strat shape, how bout you?

Also, anything about bolt-on/neck-thru/set-neck?

Go check the LTDs out, their great.


I'm not really bothered about shape as long as it's not a V or pointed. I don't have a case for one of theme.

I'm not educated in necks beyond bolt on being bolted on. What are the differences?
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Lakland J Sonic 5
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#14
Quote by Fisheth24
I'm not really bothered about shape as long as it's not a V or pointed. I don't have a case for one of theme.

I'm not educated in necks beyond bolt on being bolted on. What are the differences?


Bolt-on means the neck is bolted to the body by four big screws. Set-neck means the neck is inserted in a fitted pocket in the body and secured with glue. Neck-thru means the entire central portion (headstock, neck, center of the body) is carved from a single piece of wood, and the sides of the body (aka "wings") are glued on.
MOMMY MAD 'CAUSE I MADE A BOOM ON THE RUG

Gretsch G5120 >>> ProCo Rat >>> Fender Bassman 4x10
#15
@Loud love. My budget is only £400. Nice guitar though

@Cool storyangus. I do some. Not very often and it's when I feel like it.

I mainly tune to standard, Drop D and Drop C (Drop C is very rare though)
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#16
The reason i ask is that if you want a floyd rose type floating tremolo system you will only be able to keep it in one tuning. You cannot really change it on the fly you gotta keep it in one tuning. Also while double locking trems are great and are great fun you arent very likely to get a decent one unless you go used. You may be better off with a hardtail..
#17
Quote by Fisheth24
@Loud love. My budget is only £400. Nice guitar though

@Cool storyangus. I do some. Not very often and it's when I feel like it.

I mainly tune to standard, Drop D and Drop C (Drop C is very rare though)


Even tuning to Drop D requires you to adjust your trem to keep your intonation solid so your guitar will stay in tune.
MOMMY MAD 'CAUSE I MADE A BOOM ON THE RUG

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#18
Quote by LoudLove5150
Even tuning to Drop D requires you to adjust your trem to keep your intonation solid so your guitar will stay in tune.


Even on a guitar without a floyd?
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#19
Quote by Fisheth24
Even on a guitar without a floyd?

No just on a guitar with a tremolo. This is what we're getting at you may be better off with a hardtail.
#20
Quote by Fisheth24
Even on a guitar without a floyd?


No. But you said you wanted a floyd-style trem. That's what you have to deal with if you want a trem.
MOMMY MAD 'CAUSE I MADE A BOOM ON THE RUG

Gretsch G5120 >>> ProCo Rat >>> Fender Bassman 4x10
#21
for 400£.... hmm. Well anyway, with a floyd you wont be doing too much drop tuning, or changing tunings. Its possible ofc but very time taking. for me (played for 4 years, had a floyd guitar for 8 months) it would take maby 1 hour, cant rly say as I never bothered. Ill edit this post soon as Ill soon go check some good guitars out...

EDIT: for that price, as already stated, youd be better off with a hardtail. BUT if you would want to, this is what I suggest.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_ltd_m100fm_stbc.htm
I have one myself, with later on bought EMGs to it. VERY pleased with it. But yeah, youd have to stretch your budget to stick emgs to it...
Last edited by fc89konkari at Aug 22, 2010,
#22
Quote by LoudLove5150
No. But you said you wanted a floyd-style trem. That's what you have to deal with if you want a trem.


Oh ok. How much effort and work is it?
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#23
Quote by Fisheth24
Oh ok. How much effort and work is it?


You have to undo the locking nut, tune the string down, then adjust the trem and re-tune each string until it's all in perfect pitch.

If you ask me, these might be your best choices. I'm picking one up fairly soon:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_art300_bbc.htm

http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_art300bnc.htm

http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_art300_vtc.htm
MOMMY MAD 'CAUSE I MADE A BOOM ON THE RUG

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#24
Quote by Fisheth24
Oh ok. How much effort and work is it?

Basically everytime you change tuning you'll need to adjust the springs at the back to make sure the tremolo is setup flush to the body etcetc and its kindof a hassle.
#25
That doesn't sound too much work. I've tried those ART's before and I just thought nice guitars. But not what I'm wanting in a guitar as yet.
Bass Gear:

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Lakland J Sonic 5
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#26
Quote by Fisheth24
That doesn't sound too much work. I've tried those ART's before and I just thought nice guitars. But not what I'm wanting in a guitar as yet.


Try it out before you shrug it off. Go to a local shop and ask a guy to show you how to do it.
MOMMY MAD 'CAUSE I MADE A BOOM ON THE RUG

Gretsch G5120 >>> ProCo Rat >>> Fender Bassman 4x10
#27
I did try it out. :P to be honest. I did play it through a marshall MG. So the sound was a bit meh.

Any neck through alternatives?
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#28
for that price? VERY hard to get a decent one. Used maby... Look into a used 400 series LTD, mh or m.

The tuning changing, trust me, its a lot more work than it sounds like. If you try doing it, youll realise that its a PITA, if you want it only for a couple of songs or days.
#29
To be honest. It's going to be my ONLY guitar. So yeah. I'd be using it like all the time.
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#30
Quote by Fisheth24
I did try it out. :P to be honest. I did play it through a marshall MG. So the sound was a bit meh.

Any neck through alternatives?


I meant try out setting up a trem before you think it's oh so easy.

And anyone knows playing actives through a solid state, much less a Marshall MG, is going to sound horrible. Play through a decent tube amp to get the full effect.
MOMMY MAD 'CAUSE I MADE A BOOM ON THE RUG

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#31
I think for your price range your best bet would be to look for something used. I think an Ibanez is your best bet.
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#32
What sort of Ibanez?
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#34
What's so good about them?
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#35
Active pickups
24 frets
Hardtail which is good for drop tuning
Thin neck

and within budget
#36
Quote by So-Cal
Active pickups
24 frets
Hardtail which is good for drop tuning
Thin neck

and within budget


Are they discontinued. I can't find one anywhere!
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#38
I sure am!
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#40
Quote by So-Cal
Try ebay


I have. They don't have actives in the ones I've found.
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
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