#1
Hello!
So I got my Blackheart Handsomedevil 15 watter tube amp.




So I played with it with my NEW band in a rehearsal. And...
I think it wasn't enough to stand out in the mix...
Is this possible with a 15 watt tube amp?

I don't know if it's my ears... cause this was like the 3rd rehearsal with this Cover band... but... at least when I go for a solo, even full cranked, pushed with a ts-9 full volume. I can't get throught the mix...
Even when playing like AC/DC in the rythmn parts, I barely can hear me... it seems the drums flood me... In rhythm parts i think it's almost enough... but I'm not sure...

I'm thinking about buying a volume boost pedal to use it at solos, and the problem might be solved. About rhythm... I will need to try diferent combinations, ds-1, ts-9, big muff... and I think i can get it... but any opinions?

I got the Head and Cab. Gibson Lespaul Classic 1960.

Also, maybe getting a 4x12 cab, or 2x12 will help?
I got a friend who rehearsals with a blackstar ht-5 full cranked and he can get throught the mix, and I can't with a 15 watter?

Any opinions will be welcome.
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Last edited by Teque86 at Aug 25, 2010,
#3
A 4x12 or even 2x12 cab would help increase your volume and also give you a "fuller" sound.
#4
Hmm.

Pres - 1 clock
Bass - 11 clock
Mid - 4 clock (i know mids is the way to standout in a mix right?
Treble - 9 clock
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#6
make sure it's set to the 15w mode (if it has multiple wattage settings) and really get the volume going.
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#7
I would put everything at 12 o clock to start and see if things are standing out better, after that adjust to taste.
#9
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Set everything at 10, you should slay your drummer unless he's kingkong and using buildings for sticks with stadiums for hi-hats


Fukken SIGGED.
#10
How are your tubes looking, no issues there right? Your cables are good?

Is it even loud?
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#11
I use a Handsome Devil for rehearsal but mic it. I have the volume at about 12 o'clock doing that. I use a 100 watt halfstack for shows, but the HD gets me through practice just fine.
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#12
I did crank everything and it seemed not enough.
One thing I'm 100% sure, the amp, tubes, cables, cabinet. They are all ok. The amp is ****ING loud, but when drums come... forget it

Another thing, I'm using the 15 wat mode ALWAYS.
I let it warm up for 30 mins, before playing. I'm not a noob, I'm not saying that anyone called me that, I'm not trying to start a flame war.

This sunday I will try it again...
GUITARS: Gibson Les Paul Classic 1960
PEDALBOARD: TC POLYTUNE, GCB-95(mod)CRYBABY, MXR DYNACOMP, WAMPLER SUPERPLEXTORTION, TS-9, BIG MUFF, SMALL STONE, SMALL CLONE, MALEKKO EKKO 616, DR SCIENTIST MINI REVERBERATOR
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#13
Quote by Rio38
I use a Handsome Devil for rehearsal but mic it. I have the volume at about 12 o'clock doing that. I use a 100 watt halfstack for shows, but the HD gets me through practice just fine.


You use it at rehearsals mic'ed? Hmm, in rehearsals I always like to hear it straigh from the amp, I thought this amp supposed to work in rehearsals that way, but maybe it's my ears...

(sry for double posting)
GUITARS: Gibson Les Paul Classic 1960
PEDALBOARD: TC POLYTUNE, GCB-95(mod)CRYBABY, MXR DYNACOMP, WAMPLER SUPERPLEXTORTION, TS-9, BIG MUFF, SMALL STONE, SMALL CLONE, MALEKKO EKKO 616, DR SCIENTIST MINI REVERBERATOR
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#14
Quote by Teque86

Even when playing like AC/DC in the rythmn parts, I barely can hear me... it seems the drums flood me... In rhythm parts i think it's almost enough... but I'm not sure...

How high is the Master? Most of the way up? What's your speaker efficiency?
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#15
it's cranked man! cranked - maxed
what do you mean speaker efficiency?
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#16
You might have to tell your drummer to back off. He shouldn't be beating the living hell out of the drums anyway. 15 watts should be hella loud.
#17
Quote by Teque86
it's cranked man! cranked - maxed
what do you mean speaker efficiency?

Every speaker has a power efficiency associated with it. Greenbacks are 96dB whereas something like a G12H30 or V30 will be 100dB.

Speaker efficiency, also known as speaker sensitivity, is a measure of the speaker's output, measured in decibels, with a specified amount of amplifier power. For example, speaker efficiency is often measured with a microphone (connected to a sound level meter) placed one meter from the speaker . One watt of power is delivered to the speaker and the level meter measures the volume in decibels. The output level results in a measure of efficiency. Speakers range in efficiency or sensitivity from about 85dB (very inefficient) up to 105dB (very efficient). As a comparison, a speaker with 85 dB efficiency rating will take twice the amplifier power to reach to same volume as a speaker with 88 dB efficiency. Similarly, a speaker with a 88 dB efficiency rating will require ten times more power than a speaker with a 98 dB efficiency rating to play at the same level. If you're starting with a 100 watt/channel receiver, you would need 1000 watts (!) of power output to double the perceived volume level.
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#18
I know right? 15 watts should be fine even if he's king kong like some1 said!

might be my ears... the other guitarrist said i was a bit TOO MUCH loud... might be the amp/cab position, it was facing the drums... I don't know.

Here's the speaker specs:

# » 16 Ohm
# » Handling 75W RMS
# » 15 ply (18mm) thick, void-free Plywood Construction
# » 12" Blackheart Model 1216B by Eminence Speaker has a British Voicing and is optimized for closed back cabinet
# » 2 Parallel Speaker Jacks

Might change the speaker to celestion.
Or buy a blackstar 2x12 cab that has celestions in it.
GUITARS: Gibson Les Paul Classic 1960
PEDALBOARD: TC POLYTUNE, GCB-95(mod)CRYBABY, MXR DYNACOMP, WAMPLER SUPERPLEXTORTION, TS-9, BIG MUFF, SMALL STONE, SMALL CLONE, MALEKKO EKKO 616, DR SCIENTIST MINI REVERBERATOR
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#19
It's similar to a StoneHenge, which is 102dB.

Try putting the amp up on a table or something so the cab is nearer to ear level. It's probably just blowing your ankles off so you're not noticing.
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Feel free to express yours so I can make an informed judgement about how stupid you are.
#20
Tilting your cabinet, or putting it on a chair/stand will help a little. Warming your amp up for 30 minutes isn't necessary though..
#22
gonna try the cab on a table then.

thanks for all the help, hope you all liked the pic
GUITARS: Gibson Les Paul Classic 1960
PEDALBOARD: TC POLYTUNE, GCB-95(mod)CRYBABY, MXR DYNACOMP, WAMPLER SUPERPLEXTORTION, TS-9, BIG MUFF, SMALL STONE, SMALL CLONE, MALEKKO EKKO 616, DR SCIENTIST MINI REVERBERATOR
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