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An X Factor spokesman said post-production work was necessary on the show due to the number of microphones used during filming.


I don't know anything about the reason why they used it as my music tech knowledge is somewhat none existent.

EDIT:

Here's an article from the same site trying to soften the blow explaining that Auto-Tune is very common more good news
Last edited by leg end at Aug 23, 2010,
#2
Necessary?



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#4
My eyes were wet after watching that girls audition :<

But its sad times when people who are meant to be able to sing... cant get notes in pitch (talking about autotune in general here)
#5
jesus it sounds even worse with autotune
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#6
Thats just stupid, I really hate the use of autotune at the best of times.

In a show like that, its the characteristics of each individual, that really makes it entertainment. Not that I'm a fan, but if everyone sounded the same, it would be boring as hell.

Another thing, why didnt they do it on the terrible singers? Surely it was just as necessary to make them sound at least human, as it was to fake the voice of an already talented singer.

However, its a known fact that for the audition stages, they put the terrible ones and the best ones through, for entertainment value, so why didnt they just completely abuse the technology, and make the terrible singers sound even worse, for the fun of the watcher?
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These talent shows have always been a complete farce. No suprises here
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#10
That sounds pointless, really can't see why they've bothered, it's not like ITV need more criticism coming their way.
#12
Some day, I'm gonna convince a couple guys to go to an audition with me and play I Cum Blood, see if they auto tune us.....
#13
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I don't...I don't know what to say.

But, seriously, surely that defeats the point of X-Factor completely?
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However, its a known fact that for the audition stages, they put the terrible ones and the best ones through, for entertainment value, so why didnt they just completely abuse the technology, and make the terrible singers sound even worse, for the fun of the watcher?

Oh come on... They have to be subtle...
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But Cher is actually a good singer, and sounded like that even before autotune was invented.
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#16
As soon as I read it earlier, after
An X Factor spokesman said post-production work was necessary on the show due to the number of microphones used during filming.

I was just like What?!
#17
lol that makes no sense whatsoever
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#18
The point of x-factor is the person's singing ability, isn't it? So isn't this going to make it into how well post-production can make them sound.. completely ruins the whole point of the show, that's ridiculous.
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#20
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#22
I think this sums up X Factor perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2srXOzDny54

Brian May and Roger Taylor came on and played Bohemian Rhapsody last year. Every contestant is miming to pre-recorded, blatantly autotuned vocals, and the old rockstars play live and pwn them off the stage.
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#23
I hate the show, and all shows like it, they're all a farse. My parents had it on in the other room and I was thinking that it all sounded pitch-corrected.

But why would the number of mic's be an issue?

- The judges would all have one, so thats 3 or 4.
- The host/hosts would have a mic', so thats 2 at the most.
- The contestants would, so most of the time that's 1 or 2, maybe 4 or 5 at the most.
- The rest are probably all just to pick up audience noise, seeing as the music is all from CD's, so that is probably recorded directly, without a microphone, or even just dubbed over in the shows production.

I'm not a genius when it comes to tech'-type stuff. But I have a rough idea, atleast. But the whole 'number of microphones' excuse just dosen't hold water, to be honest.
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#26
Post production work was necessary cause no one can actually sing worth shit on any of these shows.

Plus this is the kind of show where its supposed to be entertaining to see someone make a complete ass of themselves through lack of any talent whatsoever, so why make those talentless people sound better when it will be funnier if they completely suck.

"It's pretty much used in 99% of recorded music now," says Daniel Griffiths, editor of music recording magazine Future Music."

Lets not confuse actual musicians who perform and use their real singing talents with your manufactured lip-synching pop tarts, Mr. Griffiths.
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#27
And it turns out you were all bitching for nothing. I'm surprised.

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#29
Lol..
Pop is very rarely got talented singers these days, or rock I suppose really.
It's a shame that's what it's come to...
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The point of x-factor is the person's singing ability, isn't it? So isn't this going to make it into how well post-production can make them sound.. completely ruins the whole point of the show, that's ridiculous.


The judges decisions are still based on the live audition, it's just the viewer who hears it differently. I'm fairly sure they don't have the technologically to do live auto-tuning, so they still have to be good enough to impress the panel (though I think a shiny-penny would impress that panel) and they wont be able to do this during the live stages. I don't think it really changes anything about the show, which is why the action seems so incredibly pointless
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Lol..
Pop is very rarely got talented singers these days, or rock I suppose really.
It's a shame that's what it's come to...
just a relief I like metal.

There are a few... Rihanna and Beyonce can both sing like a beast, I just don't like their music.
#32
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I'm fairly sure they don't have the technologically to do live auto-tuning,


Why not? It's just an audio processor, plug it in the PA system and presto?
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The judges decisions are still based on the live audition, it's just the viewer who hears it differently. I'm fairly sure they don't have the technologically to do live auto-tuning, so they still have to be good enough to impress the panel (though I think a shiny-penny would impress that panel) and they wont be able to do this during the live stages. I don't think it really changes anything about the show, which is why the action seems so incredibly pointless


Ahyeahh, but still, it made it seem 'less real' for those watching at home, like, I don't watch it, but my family do.. and for them, and the the of the public, if there's suddenly an 'outstanding singer' and lose of media fuss and attention is made because of this (Such as Susan Boyle), then they'll be fussing over some auto-tuned stuff, rather than genuine singing. And it's always nice to hear someone who can genuinely sing without any of the post-production stuff.
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Here's an article from the same site trying to soften the blow explaining that Auto-Tune is very common more good news

For some reason, I feel like I should mention Cynic.

Personally, I think the whole "robotic" and "spectral" vocal thing Paul Masvidal does with the vocoder/auto-tune effect is just weird, but in a good way, and I love it.

But for the most part, I'd like to see auto-tune die. If you're not a good singer, don't pretend to be one and let the door stay open for people with actual talent.
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I've watched enough metal "making of" videos to be able to tell you that there aren't many great melodic singers in metal and a lot of post-production fixing of vocals goes on in metal too.
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#37
Autotune sounds good, but not when you rely on it. Luckily, most of the songs that rely on it are bunk anyway.
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#38
it's stupid to deceive people at home because they're the ones that are going to be voting for these people later on and are going to be disappointed by the acts they were rooting for and just not vote for them later.
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#39
From the second article, regarding autotune:

"But if you're not using it now, you're the only one that isn't".

Bullshit.
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For some reason, I feel like I should mention Cynic.

Personally, I think the whole "robotic" and "spectral" vocal thing Paul Masvidal does with the vocoder/auto-tune effect is just weird, but in a good way, and I love it.

But for the most part, I'd like to see auto-tune die. If you're not a good singer, don't pretend to be one and let the door stay open for people with actual talent.

Vocoder =/= Auto tune.
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