#1
i play hard rock/alternative music...looking for a new 2x12...
i know the closed back has a little more bass response, while the open back gives a better sound dispersal...
which would be better for my type of music though?

for reference..i've been looking at an Orange PPC212OB and a Marshall 1936 respectively...also a MESA 212...

decisions decisions....
#2
I'm not familiar with any of the cabs you listed besides the mesa. But from what I've heard on records and whatnot, bass on a guitar tone doesn't seem to be as prominent in alt rock as it is in metal or whatnot. I'd go with an open back.
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#3
If you're gigging in a fairly large space I'd say an insulated closed back. It projects the sounds forward out to the crowd more.

If you're gigging in a small space (like, 10 or less people all near the amp), go for open back. It lets the sound fill the room better.

If it's for personal use (bedroom, etc) go for open back or uninsulated closed back (or better yet, conversion back).
Last edited by Seref at Aug 23, 2010,
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Quote by Seref
If you're gigging in a fairly large space I'd say an insulated closed back. It projects the sounds forward out to the crowd more.

If you're gigging in a small space (like, 10 or less people all near the amp), go for open back. It lets the sound fill the room better.

If it's for personal use (bedroom, etc) go for open back or uninsulated closed back (or better yet, conversion back).


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#6
ive got a 4x12 with v30s for home use and i keep hearing muddy bass and not enough treble. im thinking a open back would solve my problems for the most part.
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Quote by surface54
ive got a 4x12 with v30s for home use and i keep hearing muddy bass and not enough treble. im thinking a open back would solve my problems for the most part.


How high are you turning up your amp? If your playing a tube amp at bedroom volumes (unless it's low wattage), then you're not using your amp to its full potential. If that's the case, try running a volume pedal through your FX loop to attenuate the volume.
#8
Quote by Seref
=If it's for personal use (bedroom, etc) go for open back or uninsulated closed back (or better yet, conversion back).


This might be the way to go if you're unsure
#9
Just to clarify, open backed cabs have more bass, closed backs have tighter bass.
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#10
Quote by sweet_inc
i play hard rock/alternative music...looking for a new 2x12...
i know the closed back has a little more bass response, while the open back gives a better sound dispersal...
which would be better for my type of music though?

for reference..i've been looking at an Orange PPC212OB and a Marshall 1936 respectively...also a MESA 212...

decisions decisions....



the 1936 is junk imo. doesn't compare to the mesa or the orange.

as for open to closed back. the closed will have a tigher more defined bass response and usually more "thump" the open back will have more bass and "sloppy" low end and the attack isn't as clean. for alternative the open back is usually what people are going for these days (AC30s and the like) while for hard rock most are using closed backs (like the Mesa).

I really suggest the Mesa or Orange. go try them out and see for yourself. I think a CB cab is better for you though.
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ive got a 4x12 with v30s for home use and i keep hearing muddy bass and not enough treble.

Well than an open back is certainly not going to help there...
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