#1
So I play Rock/Blues. I already have an Amp for my cleanest cleans, but it doesn't sound great with overdrive. I want an amp head, all tube, that can be clean, but has a great natural break up that gives a dirty clean. It also needs to have really overdriven tones similar to 60's 70's marshalls. I was think something like a randall nb king 100, some type of orange, or some type of reeves.

Thanks!
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#2
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#3
Also look at Vox AC30/50
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#4
If you are looking at Orange and Reeves, you are looking at expensive amplifiers. Since you like the classic Marshall sound, why not look at a JCM 800? It should suit your needs well.
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#5
Egnater Renegade!
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#6
eh, but who wants a marshall? Yesterday I went and tried out a newer marshall, all tube combo (i'm not sure what model, but It was around $2,500?), a ÷13 amp, which sounded much better and had more versatility and sounded similar when on the overdrive channel. I also tried the andall nb king 100, which was cheeper, and still sounded great.
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#7
^that Marshall tube amp you played was probably one of the Plexi reissues that are handwired. I'm not a huge fan of those either personally.

based on what you've said so far you have a pretty healthy budget. Which is what?

Randall NB, Orange and Reeves will all have very different tones imo. I'd love to try that Randall head out and I love the Rockerverb/Thunderverb idea for what you play. I do not have a lot of experience with Reeves or the /13.

Ping a guy here named colin617. He gigs and plays some similar music. He got a Reeves 50 something not too long ago. He also owns a Splawn SuperStock and a bunch of other stuff. He toured with Taylor Swift on her last tour.

The Vox AC30 is a good rec too obviously if you want that Vox tone.

I personally recommend a Splawn as you are in the States. I didn't know they made a Street Rod head but Scott can build just about whatever configuration. The Quick Rod and SuperStock would work well to me thinks. The Quick Rod can also get quite heavy.

What kind of Rock are you talking about? Name some fav bands/artists that you like to do.

Also, where in Cali?


I'll get a Street Rod clip for you that will blow your mind. Hold please...

dirty splawn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-6OL8fSShc
clean splawn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O2EpCKRUEk&feature=related


Holy crap this guy is pretty good, if you can get through the first couple of minutes of messing around. Quick Rod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYEa-ymPUcQ&feature=related
Last edited by 311ZOSOVHJH at Aug 25, 2010,
#8
I mean, I like white stripes, Dead weather, Led Zeppelin, BLACK KEYS!. I like classic rock tones/bluesy tones. I don't really want to spend more than $2,000 on a head. My problem is that my guitars can't shine through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, my first and only tube amp.
These are a few sounds I want to be able to achieve:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7BRPjLyjOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnTb0PfbSoE
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#9
Used Metropoulos Plexi clone.

Or you could look at an old Marshall JMP head (actual vintage, early 70s) I've seen them go for about $1500.
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#10
the first one sounds like a marshall, the second one sounds like a fender.

edit: a 50 watt plexi circuit would be a good place to start, but i think you would want 2 channels and separate eqs.
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#12
if you want a Marshall sound buy a marshall......just because you didn't like one doesn't mean you won't like another
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Quote by gregs1020
the first one sounds like a marshall, the second one sounds like a fender.

edit: a 50 watt plexi circuit would be a good place to start, but i think you would want 2 channels and separate eqs.


/13 amps have one channel made to sound like an old Marshall, the other an old fender. But they are extremely expensive.
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#15
Quote by kracdown
/13 amps have one channel made to sound like an old Marshall, the other an old fender. But they are extremely expensive.

i think there are some others as well.

I believe Allen amps makes a jtm45 clone on one side and a fender super reverb blackface circuit on the other.

hard amps to come by used though generally, scour gearpage and gc used, and jaxed.
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#16
i can't find the allen
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#17
Quote by kracdown
So I play Rock/Blues. I already have an Amp for my cleanest cleans, but it doesn't sound great with overdrive. I want an amp head, all tube, that can be clean, but has a great natural break up that gives a dirty clean. It also needs to have really overdriven tones similar to 60's 70's marshalls. I was thinking something like a randall nb king 100, some type of orange, or some type of reeves.

Thanks!


The Dr Z Maz 18 watt Non-Reverb Head...


Not for the cleanest cleans...
"all tube, that can be clean, but has a great natural break up that gives a dirty clean. It also needs to have really overdriven tones similar to 60's 70's marshalls."
is a good way to describe it.

I run mine through a DR Z 2x10 Cab, and it sounds super!


I picked up all of my Dr Z stuff from here:
http://www.humbuckermusic.com/drzamps.html
They have free shipping, and I received good service.
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Aug 28, 2010,
#20
the Dr. Z actually sounds great. Its also right in the lower end of my price range! always a plus. But would it hold up well in band rehearsals?
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#21
Quote by kracdown
the Dr. Z actually sounds great. Its also right in the lower end of my price range! always a plus. But would it hold up well in band rehearsals?

Yes... They are built like tanks.




More things you might want to know?
The NR Model comes standard with an FX loop, the Reverb Model does not.
The Dr. can add an FX loop to a Reverb Head too, at request.

You can also order your amp with the ToneStack Bypass Mod.
If interested, more on that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQIHBjVnqHk&feature=related

A 'Brake - Lite' power attenuator, and a Maz Jr makes for a good match, and a must for playing in the house.
This guy posted a nice sound clip using a Brake - Lite.
http://drzamplifiers.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=brakelite&thread=29941&page=1
I think it sounds fantastic...

(I also ordered me a Cab splitter cable, to one day run a 1x12 Cab with a Celestion Blue in it, along with my 2x10 Z-Cab.)

The head has both 4 and 8 ohm outputs for your Cab.
I would then need to run the Brake - Lite, out of the 4 ohm out.

FYI - Here is the tube config of the Maz 18 Jr, and some other info...
http://drzamplifiers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=maz18&action=display&thread=30034
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Aug 31, 2010,
#22
can you get the EQ Tonestack Bypass Mod on the Maz 38, does anyone know?
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#23
I just called and asked the Dr.
He told me "Yes, it uses the same preamp as the Maz 18".

The Mod in a Maz Sr. is allowed.

Just so you know, a Maz Jr at 18watts is darn loud.

You get that footswitch off to the Left of my PedalBoard when you order an Amp with the ToneStack Bypass Mod already installed.
You will also have a spot to plug it into the back of the amp labeled 'Footswitch'.
Mine has that...


Needless to say... I love my Amp!
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Aug 30, 2010,
#24
BTW - Here is a recent post that talks about the Non-Reverb Z's, -vs- the reverb Z's...

Topic: to verb or not to verb....my maz story
http://drzamplifiers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=maz18&action=display&thread=34097

If you want this to be your Amp with a bit more gain... Go NR Model.
#25
I recommend the Marshall Vintage Modern 2266 or 2466, beautiful amp and it sounds fantastic. Ment to be something like a hotrodded JTM45 and gives a very good blues/hard rock tone from the 60s and 70s.

Last edited by MarshallStackLP at Aug 31, 2010,
#27
Quote by kracdown
the Dr. Z actually sounds great. Its also right in the lower end of my price range! always a plus. But would it hold up well in band rehearsals?

it would hold up a pyramid at giza. the doctor makes great amps. those gutshots are simple, all the better.

also consider a budda sd 18 or 30. they are touted as high gainers, but do lower classic rock gain very well imo.
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#28
The Dr. does make um to last.

That Budda is not a bad looking amp...
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Budda-Superdrive-30-Series-II-Guitar-Amp-Head?sku=481000
#29
Would an 18 watt head be enough to be loud when not miced?
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#30
Yes...

The boys at the Z-site talk about how well their Maz-18 did on the Gig all the time.
They are head turners.
http://drzamplifiers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=maz18&action=display&thread=32883
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Aug 31, 2010,