#1
whats the sound difference between: Stiletto, oversized, standard, roadking, and the lonestar??? not sure which one to obtain (I plan on using a 2010 solo dual rectifier head)

I play mostly metal...the nwer stuff usually, like lower-tuned stuff, btw

thnx.
Yeah. But the same can be said for DAR amps and other amps which use "weird" tubes...dammit I want a pair of KT120s..I might blow up my amp and burn my house down, but at least I'll go out in a blaze of glory
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#2
That's really a lot of ground to cover when trying to compare all of those cabs. Anyone of them will be a great choice. It's going to come down to projection, speakers, slant/straight, construction, etc. I'd go for the Stiletto or Standard.
#3
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That's really a lot of ground to cover when trying to compare all of those cabs. Anyone of them will be a great choice. It's going to come down to projection, speakers, slant/straight, construction, etc. I'd go for the Stiletto or Standard.


true... is it actually possible to try out one and then return it, then play thru the next one? I know its a long shot, but Im willing to go through anything to get a good tone (provided, these would from online sites..so i guess it depends on their policies)

but I do prefer streight cabs more than slant for the extra low-end frequency push, well I wouldn't say "extra" maybe "more focused"
Yeah. But the same can be said for DAR amps and other amps which use "weird" tubes...dammit I want a pair of KT120s..I might blow up my amp and burn my house down, but at least I'll go out in a blaze of glory
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#4
I heard the standard cab is a bit more punchy than the oversized which sounds muddy to some.

Ulitimately I'd get a Mills Acoustic 4x12" if you're willing to shell out like $200 more for a better cabinet.
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#5
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I heard the standard cab is a bit more punchy than the oversized which sounds muddy to some.

Ulitimately I'd get a Mills Acoustic 4x12" if you're willing to shell out like $200 more for a better cabinet.


I assume they have different 412s but would you happen to be referring to the "afterburner"?
This company's cabs seem to be hard find as far as obtaining one. Thanks for advise!
Yeah. But the same can be said for DAR amps and other amps which use "weird" tubes...dammit I want a pair of KT120s..I might blow up my amp and burn my house down, but at least I'll go out in a blaze of glory
#6
Standard Cab = Oversized Cab

Stiletto Cab = Traditional Cab

Just so you don't get confused...the oversized is the standard now.

Anyway, to completely generalize it, the Stiletto will sound a little tighter, and the Standard will sound a little bassier.

I'd just try them both if I could...different strokes for different folks...like, personally, I prefer the Stiletto, but a lot of people like the oversized best....its all preference.
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Standard Cab = Oversized Cab

Stiletto Cab = Traditional Cab

Just so you don't get confused...the oversized is the standard now.

Anyway, to completely generalize it, the Stiletto will sound a little tighter, and the Standard will sound a little bassier.

I'd just try them both if I could...different strokes for different folks...like, personally, I prefer the Stiletto, but a lot of people like the oversized best....its all preference.


sweet thankz a lot, and as for the Mills Acoustic 412s, it seems like (according to some posts on other sites) you (or 'I' rather) would have to contact the company some way and have one built... someone was selling theirs on a site forum, mint condition for like 900usd and they mentioned it being a few hundred less than new straight from the company, but anyways... still looking for one tho (cuz the one being sold could only be shipped anywhere within 100 approx. miles from California).
Yeah. But the same can be said for DAR amps and other amps which use "weird" tubes...dammit I want a pair of KT120s..I might blow up my amp and burn my house down, but at least I'll go out in a blaze of glory
#8
Stiletto = Marshall Sized
Recto = Bigger than Marshall
Roadking = Bigger than Marshall, But with a half open back


I don't know what a Mesa "Standard" cab is, and I think Lonestars are partially open backs as well.
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Stiletto = Marshall Sized
Recto = Bigger than Marshall
Roadking = Bigger than Marshall, But with a half open back


I don't know what a Mesa "Standard" cab is, and I think Lonestars are partially open backs as well.


that helps alot
Yeah. But the same can be said for DAR amps and other amps which use "weird" tubes...dammit I want a pair of KT120s..I might blow up my amp and burn my house down, but at least I'll go out in a blaze of glory
#10
The Recto Standard is the same thing as the OS cab as others have said. The Traditional is the same as the Stiletto.

The Standard has a bigger lowend and can get boomy with the wrong amp. I've not tried a 2010 Recto, but with the older 3 channels, this was certainly the case. The Stiletto is a more focused sound, less lowend and tighter, it's the safer bet, but the OS can sound massive with the right amp. The Road King is a half back. The top is open and the bottom is closed. Really cool to use with the RK cause you can assign different channels to come out of different parts of the cab, but since you can't do that with a regular Recto, if you played out of all 4, you'd get a pretty loose sound because of the open back top portion. However, the RK cab is the best Mesa makes in terms of quality and sound, but you'd need to close the top part to really gf a good sound out of it. The Lonestar, I have no idea. Didn't even know they made those in 4x12s, but based on the fact that the Lonestar is a clean/mid gain amp, I'd say they're not the right choice for you.

As others have suggested though, I'd definitely shop around at other companies. I love my Mesa OS, but after buying an Emperor a few weeks back, the Mesa just fails in comparison. Definitely look into them, Mills Acoustics, Port City, Splawn, etc before you decide on anything. Hell, an Emperor 4x12 is even cheaper than a Mesa
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The Recto Standard is the same thing as the OS cab as others have said. The Traditional is the same as the Stiletto.

The Standard has a bigger lowend and can get boomy with the wrong amp. I've not tried a 2010 Recto, but with the older 3 channels, this was certainly the case. The Stiletto is a more focused sound, less lowend and tighter, it's the safer bet, but the OS can sound massive with the right amp. The Road King is a half back. The top is open and the bottom is closed. Really cool to use with the RK cause you can assign different channels to come out of different parts of the cab, but since you can't do that with a regular Recto, if you played out of all 4, you'd get a pretty loose sound because of the open back top portion. However, the RK cab is the best Mesa makes in terms of quality and sound, but you'd need to close the top part to really gf a good sound out of it. The Lonestar, I have no idea. Didn't even know they made those in 4x12s, but based on the fact that the Lonestar is a clean/mid gain amp, I'd say they're not the right choice for you.

As others have suggested though, I'd definitely shop around at other companies. I love my Mesa OS, but after buying an Emperor a few weeks back, the Mesa just fails in comparison. Definitely look into them, Mills Acoustics, Port City, Splawn, etc before you decide on anything. Hell, an Emperor 4x12 is even cheaper than a Mesa


Thanks! I'll look into them!
Yeah. But the same can be said for DAR amps and other amps which use "weird" tubes...dammit I want a pair of KT120s..I might blow up my amp and burn my house down, but at least I'll go out in a blaze of glory
#12
Owning both a OS and now a Traditional I can say that I am far happier with the Traditional. It's just a lot tighter in comparison and that's what is needed for most metal. Especially now adays. The OS was a great cab though, but as Matrix said it can be boomy/loose with the wrong head. Running my Baron/RM100/5150 though both I liked the Baron and RM100 better though the Traditional and the 5150 through the OS. 5150's need a little extra umph which I feel the OS helped a lot with.
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