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#1
I don't know whether to think this is awesome or think that it is going to end up like a corrupt version of Minority report.

A new piece of software has been developed which uses a set of algorithms to predict possible future crimes by people on probation or parole. It is hoped that the technology will help in setting bail conditions, level and type of supervision given by probation officers and even bail bond amounts.


I honestly can't see how a piece of impersonal software is going to replace the personal and human judgement of a probation officer. Plus it only can be used in the cases of those who already have criminal records (and many people who end up on probation are first-time offenders).

Article (ABC News)

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The Pit is paranoid today.
Interesting.
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Old, but interesting.

Minority Report was a damn good movie, but if that were real life, I would be very scared.

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That's ****in' stupid. Why do you guys keep giving me reasons to be paranoid?
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So basically more people are gonna get arrested.
Because "the computer said so".

Right.
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#14
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So basically more people are gonna get arrested.
Because "the computer said so".

Right.



Read the article.
#15
This software will probably be a complete flop. Has fail written all over it.
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#16
I really don't think anything will come from this.
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That's ****in' stupid. Why do you guys keep giving me reasons to be paranoid?


Unless you're on parole for murder, you have nothing to worry about.


That said, I don't agree with using software to determine whether someone will reoffend. But personal evaluation by overworked, underpaid parole officers isn't necessarily much better.
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Unless you're on parole for murder, you have nothing to worry about.


That said, I don't agree with using software to determine whether someone will reoffend. But personal evaluation by overworked, underpaid parole officers isn't necessarily much better.



A parole or probation officer is much better. A computer is merely feeding inputted data through a programmed system. An actual human can take into account the offender's personality, things said when they've actually spoken to the offenders and other factors which cannot be picked up on a computer.
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Quote by Fassa Albrecht
A parole or probation officer is much better. A computer is merely feeding inputted data through a programmed system. An actual human can take into account the offender's personality, things said when they've actually spoken to the offenders and other factors which cannot be picked up on a computer.


They will get some wrong though. So will the software. Use whichever makes the fewest mistakes. Or perhaps a combination of the two.
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#21
I though it said 'time' not 'crime'

I was like this software will tell us everything that will happen :wf:
#22
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They will get some wrong though. So will the software. Use whichever makes the fewest mistakes. :shrugs: Or perhaps a combination of the two.



Thing is that if a human makes a mistake, you can talk to them, find out why they made that error and then correct it.

Thing is that computers are as good as their programming, and they are basically following a narrow set of instructions put into their code. Unlike humans, a computer has no ability to think and problem-solve, or change certain rules based on the information.
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I though it said 'time' not 'crime'

I was like this software will tell us everything that will happen :wf:



I can predict time: in exactly 2 minutes from posting this it will be 19:48 here.

I basically agree with meths on this, it should be used in conjunction with parole officers or perhaps only when the criminal has a very high result for likelihood of re-offending.

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Sounds about right^
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#27
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I can predict time: in exactly 2 minutes from posting this it will be 19:48 here.

I basically agree with meths on this, it should be used in conjunction with parole officers or perhaps only when the criminal has a very high result for likelihood of re-offending.



If a person is at a high risk of reoffending, chances are a probation officer will pick up on this and give more monitoring to that person.
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#29
This is beyond retarded.
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#30
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This is beyond retarded.
Why don't we just employ gypsies with crystal balls while we're at it?


Pfft, pretty much. The coding for the program is probably this:

intHighNumber = 100
intLowNumber = 1
For i = 1 to 5
    Randomize
    intNumber = Int((intHighNumber - intLowNumber + 1) * Rnd + intLowNumber)
    Wscript.Echo intNumber
Next

(Random number generator, in VBS coding. In case you cared.)

If the average of the numbers in anywhere between 21 and 25, they'll most likely be a murderer.

It's flawless.
#32
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If a person is at a high risk of reoffending, chances are a probation officer will pick up on this and give more monitoring to that person.


Which is belied by our absurdly high reoffending rate.

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This is beyond retarded.
Why don't we just employ gypsies with crystal balls while we're at it?


Gypsies aren't quite so good at statistics and probability.
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#34
At least a computer program doesn't get drunk on the job and take bribe. (yet...)
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#35
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Which is belied by our absurdly high reoffending rate.



The re-offending rate is dependant on more than just probation officers. Not everyone who is sentenced by the court system ends up in the probation system, and probation officers can't see into the future even for those who DO end up into the system.


It's a hard enough job in the first place to deal with probation cases without making it any harder.
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Quote by Fassa Albrecht
The re-offending rate is dependant on more than just probation officers. Not everyone who is sentenced by the court system ends up in the probation system, and probation officers can't see into the future even for those who DO end up into the system.


It's a hard enough job in the first place to deal with probation cases without making it any harder.


Who's making it harder? But point conceded. I blame prison personally, although I doubt you will.

The pit fluxates between different mental illnesses if you watch how people react.


...Really? That's how you think "fluctuates" is spelt?
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#37
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Who's making it harder? But point conceded. I blame prison personally, although I doubt you will.



Actually I do blame prison. They're underfunded and understaffed, and a lot of prisoners, including those who need educational help or mental health treatment, simply don't get help they need, and so the factors which led them to offend in the first place aren't dealt with, and so the chances they'll reoffend is pretty much certain.


Stuff like this software is little better than a random number generator and isn't going to help anyone.
#39
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Why should we be scared of this? I'm not a convicted criminal nor am I planning to be one.



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