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#1
Hi,
So I'm getting a guitar for Christmas and I would like some second opinions.

My price range is anywhere between $300-$700.
Up to this point, I've played METAL music like Metallica, System Of A Down, Alice In Chains, etc.
I want to play heavier things like Cannibal Corpse, Dethklok, and things to that nature.
Also, I want an axe that has 24 frets.
I would guess Gibson and ESP are the brands I need, but what do I know?
Last edited by Skwisgaar1996 at Aug 26, 2010,
#2
Ibanez!!! (But seriously, don't try to concede yourself to one specific brand. You never know, you might just end up with a tele!
Guitars
Ibanez Prestige RG355OXM
Fender Mexican Deluxe Series Stratocaster
Fender Squire Bullet
Schecter Damien Elite 8
Yamaha F325 Acoustic

Amps
Peavey 5150 II Full stack
Peavey 2001 Studio Pro 112
Roland Micro Cube
#6
Quote by JessyB96
schecter dude



And to the guy who said Gibsons are bad for metal, I have two words:
  • Zakk
  • Wylde


OT: Go try out anything that appeals to you in your price range. My favorite guitar that I've EVER played for thrash was a very obviously '80s rock oriented Charvel.
Current Gear:
LTD MH-400
PRS SE Custom 24 (Suhr SSH+/SSV)
Ibanez RG3120 Prestige (Dimarzio Titans)
Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz V
Audient iD22 interface
Peavey Revalver 4, UAD Friedman BE100/DS40
Adam S3A monitors
Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
Last edited by oneblackened at Aug 26, 2010,
#7
Quote by oneblackened


And to the guy who said Gibsons are bad for metal, I have two words:
  • Zakk
  • Wylde

Damn you. lol. I totally forgot about him but then agian he uses a custom gibson les paul and $700 for a gibson would be different then his gibson
Last edited by aguitar rampage at Aug 26, 2010,
#8
^You can get an Explorer for that much... they have very metal oriented pickups.
Current Gear:
LTD MH-400
PRS SE Custom 24 (Suhr SSH+/SSV)
Ibanez RG3120 Prestige (Dimarzio Titans)
Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz V
Audient iD22 interface
Peavey Revalver 4, UAD Friedman BE100/DS40
Adam S3A monitors
Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#9
Quote by aguitar rampage
Gibson for metal? Thats a no


Ell Oh Ell




Quote by aguitar rampage
Damn you. lol. I totally forgot about him but then agian he uses a custom gibson les paul and $700 for a gibson would be different then his gibson


The amp is far more important when it comes to your style...you can play metal on a Fender Strat.

The only guitars that really wouldn't work for metal are hollow-bodies.
Quote by rmr024
Well, in California, people carry around devices that control the minds of bears. So expect to see people walking their bears.

Also, don't be surprised if some robot hookers try to solicit sex to you on the streets.
Last edited by SLonergan at Aug 26, 2010,
#10
Quote by aguitar rampage
Damn you. lol. I totally forgot about him but then agian he uses a custom gibson les paul and $700 for a gibson would be different then his gibson


You also forgot:

- Esa Holopainen from Amorphis

- Jeff Kendrick from DevilDriver

- James Hetfield from Metallica

- Mastodon's Bill Kelliher

..and countless others. Don't be stupid.
#11
Gibson Les Paul Studio with Catswhiskers pickups
PRS SE 'Floyd' Custom 24 with Creamery pickups
Fender Standard Stratocaster with DiMarzio pickups
Takamine GN30
BluGuitar AMP1
#12
Quote by Rautio
You also forgot:

- Esa Holopainen from Amorphis

- Jeff Kendrick from DevilDriver

- James Hetfield from Metallica

- Mastodon's Bill Kelliher

..and countless others. Don't be stupid.

Uses mostly ESPs.
Current Gear:
LTD MH-400
PRS SE Custom 24 (Suhr SSH+/SSV)
Ibanez RG3120 Prestige (Dimarzio Titans)
Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz V
Audient iD22 interface
Peavey Revalver 4, UAD Friedman BE100/DS40
Adam S3A monitors
Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#13
Quote by SLonergan
Ell Oh Ell




The amp is far more important when it comes to your style...you can play metal on a Fender Strat.

The only guitars that really wouldn't work for metal are hollow-bodies.

Oh well in that case have fun playing metal on an acoustic.
#14
Quote by Rautio
You also forgot:

- Esa Holopainen from Amorphis

- Jeff Kendrick from DevilDriver

- James Hetfield from Metallica

- Mastodon's Bill Kelliher

..and countless others. Don't be stupid.

I'm not doubting that their aren't countless others, but why did you name only 3 players really because James Hetfield uses an ESP.
#15
Quote by aguitar rampage
I'm not doubting that their aren't countless others, but why did you name only 3 players really because James Hetfield uses an ESP.

He mainly uses ESP. He sometimes uses a Les Paul live, I've seen a lot of pics of him on stage with it.
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#16
Quote by SLonergan



The amp is far more important when it comes to your style...you can play metal on a Fender Strat.

The only guitars that really wouldn't work for metal are hollow-bodies.



Quote by aguitar rampage
Oh well in that case have fun playing metal on an acoustic.


Hmm...Pretty sure I covered that base.

Quote by SLonergan


The only guitars that really wouldn't work for metal are hollow-bodies.


Yup...sure did. Care to try the whole sarcasm thing again? Since you failed so bad at that one?
Quote by rmr024
Well, in California, people carry around devices that control the minds of bears. So expect to see people walking their bears.

Also, don't be surprised if some robot hookers try to solicit sex to you on the streets.
#17
hypothetically speaking if you don't have an amp try it on a semi-hollow body. does that work for you this time.
#19
Okay...lets do this...

Used:
Ibanez Prestiges
Ibanez RGAs
Schecter Hellraiser C-1s
LTD MH-1000
LTD MH-401
#20
I keep seeing Ibanez, but I heard a story were a guy bought an Ibanez guitar and something was broken on it, so he called their factory and its been like over 17 weeks and they still havent helped him. Its sounds like their never going to either.
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Quote by aguitar rampage
hypothetically speaking if you don't have an amp try it on a semi-hollow body. does that work for you this time.


Just stop...you're digging yourself deeper...you said something dumb, and now you're trying to save face...

Problem is, you basically just said that Acoustic guitars and Semi-Hollow bodies don't have hollow bodies.

Just let it go.
Quote by rmr024
Well, in California, people carry around devices that control the minds of bears. So expect to see people walking their bears.

Also, don't be surprised if some robot hookers try to solicit sex to you on the streets.
#24
I seem to play a lot of what you do, and Schecter is the right brand for these bands. A Hellraiser can run you anywhere from 400-850$, but if you're not a strat fan they have many different body shapes.
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#26
Quote by SLonergan
Just stop...you're digging yourself deeper...you said something dumb, and now you're trying to save face...

Problem is, you basically just said that Acoustic guitars and Semi-Hollow bodies don't have hollow bodies.

Just let it go.

I'm not sure on your reading skills then cuz at no point did i say semi-hollow and hollow aren't hollow bodies. I have no idea how you came up with that. And i get it a gibson les paul can be used for metal yet it is better suited for other styles. and basically since you said an amp makes the difference, your saying an solid body guitar can then be versatile for any style. Ok, then. Now back to the actual topic. As the person above me said the PRS SE 24 custom, i agree they are very good guitars, they are light, 24 frets, and they have a fast thin neck. The normal PRS SE 24 custom along with the PRS SE 22 custom were discontinued for this model. If you could find a regular SE 24 you should absolutely buy it then. As the main difference in the new one are the bird inlays, and don't quote me on this but i think it has better pickups as well.
#27
Quote by oWeiLeRz
I seem to play a lot of what you do, and Schecter is the right brand for these bands. A Hellraiser can run you anywhere from 400-850$, but if you're not a strat fan they have many different body shapes.

Not intentional, but

Massive
TS, an LTD of some sort might work for you.
Current Gear:
LTD MH-400
PRS SE Custom 24 (Suhr SSH+/SSV)
Ibanez RG3120 Prestige (Dimarzio Titans)
Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz V
Audient iD22 interface
Peavey Revalver 4, UAD Friedman BE100/DS40
Adam S3A monitors
Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
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that models is the current 1 out, its the anniversary special edition they stopped offering the regualr custom 24 se intill 2011
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Quote by oneblackened


And to the guy who said Gibsons are bad for metal, I have two words:
  • Zakk
  • Wylde


OT: Go try out anything that appeals to you in your price range. My favorite guitar that I've EVER played for thrash was a very obviously '80s rock oriented Charvel.


ORLY?!?

Zakk Wylde would sound just as bad on whatever guitar he played.

I do agree with the Charvel comment though. Thems is dead sexy.

TS: Go try stuff. If you like the sound and feel, go for it.
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Quote by aguitar rampage
Gibson for metal? Thats a no. I second the Ibanez, you can look into ESP's too.


Hioll
I'm not an electric specialist so just curious to know why a Gibson is not good for metal ?
#31
good guitars for metal are brands like jackson, ibanez or schecter. and they dont cost that much either
#32
If you're looking for a "metal" guitar, I would suggest you don't focus on what brand it is but on what features it has. Also, it has to feel right for you. You should be focusing on the neck style, fret size, body shape and most importantly sound. If you're dead set on brand name, I would suggest Ibanez, Dean, ESP or Jackson. Les Paul's are OK for metal too but they have 22 frets and not 24 like what you're looking for. Also, you might wanna swap out the stock pickups for active pickups like EMG's.
#33
Quote by githead
Hioll
I'm not an electric specialist so just curious to know why a Gibson is not good for metal ?

You wouldnt generally use a Gibson Les Paul as a metal guitar because of the thickness of the neck, the neck not being fast, and the humbuckers on the les pauls, but humbuckers are used on metal guitars but those are different then the ones of Gibson Les Pauls, and explorer would be better than a les paul.
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Quote by aguitar rampage
You wouldnt generally use a Gibson Les Paul as a metal guitar because of the thickness of the neck, the neck not being fast, and the humbuckers on the les pauls, but humbuckers are used on metal guitars but those are different then the ones of Gibson Les Pauls, and explorer would be better than a les paul.




Gibsons, and especially LPs, are fine for metal. There is no such thing as a "metal guitar." The neck thickness is a personal preference, and has no bearing on whether or not it can be used for a certain style of music. With proper technique you should be able to run the same scales and make the same changes regardless of neck thickness.

Zakk Wylde would rip off your head and shit down your neck if he wasn't so busy melting faces and getting a beer transfusion.

Related watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE1UC9VBQD0
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Quote by tepperboner


Gibsons, and especially LPs, are fine for metal. There is no such thing as a "metal guitar." The neck thickness is a personal preference, and has no bearing on whether or not it can be used for a certain style of music. With proper technique you should be able to run the same scales and make the same changes regardless of neck thickness.

Zakk Wylde would rip off your head and shit down your neck if he wasn't so busy melting faces and getting a beer transfusion.

Related watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE1UC9VBQD0

ESP's and Ibanez are more generally suited for metal, there are guitars that you would never want to use for metal, not ever guitar can be used for certain styles. And no Zakk Wylde would not be able to do that as he would be to drunk to even stand up let alone do what you said.
#36
now you got me going, I geuss a thicker neck is directly related to a "fast neck"?
why`s this?
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Quote by SLonergan


The only guitars that really wouldn't work for metal are hollow-bodies.



i play metal on a hollwobdy. i have no issues what so ever, not even feedback.
People in the pit take my post way too seriously.

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#38
There is no such thing as a "metal guitar."
Yes there is. It's called a resonator.

To the Original Poster - You want to play Dethklok? Gibson Explorer. End of story. Brendan Small plays one in studio and live. There ya go.
#39
Quote by Arterial
Okay...lets do this...

Used:
Ibanez Prestiges
Ibanez RGAs
Schecter Hellraiser C-1s
LTD MH-1000
LTD MH-401

yep
#40
I would go for a Fender Strat, it has wide frets to allow easy shredding and both single and double coil pick ups for maximum versatility.

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