#1
I need to buy a new amp to play in a my cousins band. the lead guitarist has a marshal mg full stack 100 watt. Im looking at a Peavey 6505 60 Watt tube (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-6505-112-60W-1x12-Tube-Combo-Guitar-Amp?sku=582106&src=3WFRWXX&ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=335406065). Will it provide the distortion I need for a metalcore band, And will it also be able to compete in volume with the stack
#2
The Peavey will be louder, so yes.
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#3
You'll probably be able to drown him out, OP. The MG is quiet for 100w SS.
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#4
Lol yea i havent heard too many great things about mg's. Will I have enough distortion for good sounds chugs, and pinch harmonics?
#6
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Lol yea i havent heard too many great things about mg's. Will I have enough distortion for good sounds chugs, and pinch harmonics?

Yes, the 6505 is the quintessential metal amp.
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#8
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Lol yea i havent heard too many great things about mg's. Will I have enough distortion for good sounds chugs, and pinch harmonics?

You'll have more than enough distortion with the gain on 5 or 6
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yea go with the peavey.
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#13
humans as well.

enjoy the 6505.
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#14
I feel sorry for the lead guitarist. For the money he dropped on that, he could have got something half decent.

TS, the 6505 will be better in every possible way.

Your setup makes me want to cry. I'm much more of a lead player than a rhythm player, so imagining a band playing with a sick rhythm tone, and then a ****ing awful lead MG tone on top of that... just makes me want to jump off a bridge.
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#15
I have that amp and it really cuts through live and has more than enough gain to satisfy. He will get muddy as you get clarity at higher volumes.

The Sheffield speaker is meh though.
#17
Your other guitarist will probably throw his MG out the window once he hears your amp if you get a 6505+
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#18
Quote by xNIHILISMx
I need to buy a new amp to play in a my cousins band. the lead guitarist has a marshal mg full stack 100 watt. Im looking at a Peavey 6505 60 Watt tube (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-6505-112-60W-1x12-Tube-Combo-Guitar-Amp?sku=582106&src=3WFRWXX&ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=335406065). Will it provide the distortion I need for a metalcore band, And will it also be able to compete in volume with the stack



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#19
Quote by Cathbard
Your other guitarist will probably throw his MG out the window once he hears your amp if you get a 6505+


I dont think so,you have to be tone deaf in the first place to buy a MG Full stack

he probably will like the "crushing overdrive" of his MG more than the 6505
#20
Quote by archenemyfan
I dont think so,you have to be tone deaf in the first place to buy a MG Full stack

he probably will like the "crushing overdrive" of his MG more than the 6505



Hey I purchased a Marshall MG many years ago!


When I was a guitar n00b and didn't know about this site
Its quite easy to fall into the "It says Marshall on the front it must be good!" trap
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#21
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Hey I purchased a Marshall MG many years ago!


When I was a guitar n00b and didn't know about this site
Its quite easy to fall into the "It says Marshall on the front it must be good!" trap


well MG combo OK,but full stack seriously?how can beginners afford full stacks?

keep in mind I'm talking about the Full stack...
#24
Quote by Cisc
check this out though, I used to have a mghdfx and we recorded this song with it..it actually turned out great...

I did use an eq as an input boost and a sonic maximizer on it though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2T57l0WzJw

But now i have a 6506+ and would never use a mg again!

Sounds like a solid-state Marshall to me

Way too much gain, sounds like you were going for a Dimebag tone. It's not the worst I've heard out of an MG, but also not the best. It does sound very stiff, artificial and really weird in the mids though.
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#25
Quote by Talentless
Hey I purchased a Marshall MG many years ago!


When I was a guitar n00b and didn't know about this site
Its quite easy to fall into the "It says Marshall on the front it must be good!" trap

And you didn't have a pair of ears many years ago?
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#26
Never ever go for the MG series. I obtained one about a year ago. It sounded like shit! it was the 102fx. I ended up sending it back and getting my 6505 112. I am a LOT happier. I simply can't understand why Marshall would pass off something like that as one of their own.
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#27
Quote by Cathbard
And you didn't have a pair of ears many years ago?


I was not really that clued up on tone to be honest with you. Had no real point of reference and there are very few good guitar retailers where I live. Or more that there weren't the 6 or 7 years ago I purchased the MG.

Due to this I purchased the Marshall MG online without first trying one out. I simply wanted a marshall due to its name in my price range and ended up with a Marshall MG50DFX. I didn't have a clue what solid state, tube amps or modelling amps were.

Was a definite upgrade from the Kustom KGA10 I had been using for 2 or 3 years. I did however quickly outgrow that Marshall MG.

I am now quite the tone chaser however as you can tell in my sig, we all have to learn one way or another and without guidance of some kind the learning takes even longer!

Ear for tone is something that definitely develops over time like any other guitar based talents and skills.
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#28
Lets put it this way. My other guitar player has an MG100 watt half stack. He'll put it at full and my valveking defeats it with 1/3 volume. So with this amp I think it would be pretty close in your situation, i still think you would win. And yeah, this has plenty of gain!
#29
A SS Fullstack is still almost worthless. I remember using SS stacks and I would have to turn it all the way up to the point before it started sounding flubby and s&@#$ty so that I could be heard. Plus it doesn't cut through, just sounds like a wall of sound.
#30
Quote by Cisc
check this out though, I used to have a mghdfx and we recorded this song with it..it actually turned out great...

I did use an eq as an input boost and a sonic maximizer on it though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2T57l0WzJw

But now i have a 6506+ and would never use a mg again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72xuDFravT0

That is all.

Edit:
What I mean to say is, It still sounded like ass. Please dont boost an MG... ever...
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#31
Quote by Cisc
check this out though, I used to have a mghdfx and we recorded this song with it..it actually turned out great...

I did use an eq as an input boost and a sonic maximizer on it though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2T57l0WzJw

But now i have a 6506+ and would never use a mg again!

Hate to say it but that sounded awful.


Lol, just kidding dude, I loved to say that.
#33
Quote by scaryfried
sounds horrible still. it's just drowned in loads of effects.



It's not that bad. The one I played was a pretty decent sounding amp (the new MGs), but the reason everyone doesn't like them here is either:

A) They've realized that there's better amps out there for the price.

B) They're listening to what everyone else says on this forum and not thinking for themselves, so they go try it with the idea that it already sucks. Of course it sucks if you already "know" it sucks.

or

C) They've never even tried one and are just jumping on the bandwagon.


I'm not really defending the MG here, it's not an amp I would ever own, but as long as you're not a retard and scoop all your mids out and crank the bass and treble, they're fully capable of getting some decent sounds out of. Obviously, if you have the full stack though, you're high and just wasted a lot of money... but for someone using it for what it is, a practice amp, or have a combo that they got cheap and use it with a band, then I say go for it. Who cares what others think of your tone? If you like it, then go for it. However, if you come on this forum and ask people if it's a good amp, you better be flexible in changing your mind about what amp to buy
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#34
exactly, it's what it is - a practice amp. but that stupid rob chappers video is trying to show that it's a great amp - which it's not, it's a crappy sounding practice amp. practice amps don't need to sound great though.
#35
i have a 6505+ and it has more than enough gain i have it at 5 or 6 and its perfect for metalcore.GO AND BUY THE AMP
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