#1
Hi guys,

I have a Ibanez GRG170DX and I still have the strings that the guitar came with. I tried another Ibanez (forgot the model) but this one had thicker strings and the sound was so much heavier. One thing I noticed was if I palm muted on the other Ibanez, you could really hear the "chugging" sound that happens with palm muting. But if I palm mute on my GRG170DX, you can barely hear it.

So really, I just want a heavier tone but I'm not getting that currently with my guitar. Is it because I need thicker strings? I don't know exactly how thick the strings are but they were probably half the size compared to the other Ibanez I tried. Is getting new strings the answer? Or are there other factors in play here too, like pick ups?

If it is the strings, can anyone suggest strings that would work well with my guitar?

Thanks.
#2
Amp?

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#3
It Colud be the strings but It could also be the tuning, my suggestion is to get either .10's or .11's and consider tuning your guitar down a whole step.
#4
Did you play the both guitars on same amp, same settings? I'm pretting sure you can get a chugging sound with higher tunings, just need pretty good gain. But I don't know for sure, because I don't play metal very often. Down tuning would help though.
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#5
Amp amp amp.
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#6
Turn your friggin gain down. I know that makes no sense, but it works.
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#7
well with bigger strings they move in a tighter fashion than lighter strings in the same tuning, but the movement whilst being muted causes the 'chug'. so if it moves less the sound is heavier but the chug is less. its a trade off mate.
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#8
The amp I am using is a Marshall MG15CDR. Unfortunately, I don't remember the other amp I used, but it did look like a much older amp and had much fewer options. Only contained bass/contour/treble/volume/gain off and on.

I turn the gain only halfway on the Marshall amp...doesn't sound any better when I lower it anymore. The other amp only had an on/off for the gain. Also, I did set the knobs to the same settings.

I could tune my guitar to a lower setting, but I would have to figure out all the fingering again in another tuning which would be a little inconvenient.
#9
Its because you have a god awful amp. Get a new amp, and thicker strings.
#10
bass up, mid down all the way, treb up all the way, gain...OVER 9000!!!!!!


thats how i get a chug with 9s XD

oh and tuning to Eb helps too
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bass up, mid down all the way, treb up all the way, gain...OVER 9000!!!!!!


thats how i get a chug with 9s XD

oh and tuning to Eb helps too


No. Scooping mids does not equal metal.

Keep your mids at like 6 or 7, Bass at like 6, treble however you want it. And use thicker strings, that definitely helps, and you could drop tune if you like.
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#12
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No. Scooping mids does not equal metal.

Keep your mids at like 6 or 7, Bass at like 6, treble however you want it. And use thicker strings, that definitely helps, and you could drop tune if you like.


I never scoop the mids, because I don't like the sound. But IMO, when you turn down the mids, you seem to get a better chugging sound. That my opinion anyways.
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#13
I second new amp here. The marshall MG's maybe adequate for new players but seriously, it's a marketing tool. Some of the cheap ten watt amps from the Wall mart starter packs sound better than an MG, what I'd do is I'd save up a little the MG will do for now and buy a better amp once you've had experiences with other amps and gear so you know what tone you want.

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#14
I can only agree with what's just been said. Your amp is probably about 80-90% of your tone and a Marshall MG is awful compared to most other amps. Just because the other amp didn't have as many options on it doesn't mean it was a bad amp. Distortion, such as it is, on a Vox AC30 is either on or off but it's still one of the best amps ever made. Compared to changing the amp, changing the strings will have virtually no difference at all. You need a good amp first, then you go for a better guitar and then finally you can start messing around with pedals, strings and pickups. Personally, I found that changing string gauge had less difference than anything else I've tried.
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Buy a line 6 spider
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Scoop out the mids
Max out the gain knob
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Buy a line 6 spider
Get a BC rich
Scoop out the mids
Max out the gain knob
Boost it with an MT-2

There you go, instant m3tuls



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Quote by adj209
Buy a line 6 spider
Get a BC rich
Scoop out the mids
Max out the gain knob
Boost it with an MT-2

There you go, instant m3tuls



you better be joking or i will have to kill you.


i dont use the knobs on my amp. i use a 20 band eq.

boost the bass side lower the mids keep the treble non affected and have any frequences below the guitars lowest note cut by 3 decibles (based on boost of the highest point in the bass end of the eq. ex: 40hz @6db boost means 25hz has a 3db boost. etc).
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