Poll: Is it wrong to wear a CCCP t-shirt?
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View poll results: Is it wrong to wear a CCCP t-shirt?
Yes, it makes you look like a douchebag
24 16%
Not if you agree with the soviet ideology
33 22%
Not if you were born in the soviet union
9 6%
Not at all, who cares what people think.
86 57%
Voters: 152.
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#1
I've got two red t-shirts that say "CCCP" and have a hammer and sickle. My dad gave me them for my birthday some time ago. He's got one, too.

I get a lot of comments on it from strangers. Some people just point an laugh. Is it offensive or morally wrong to wear a CCCP shirt?

I'm not a socialist or communist (I don't know enough about politics to form an opinion) but I was born in the USSR. If I had a shirt with the name of any other no-longer-existing country, I doubt anyone would say anything about it. To me, it's just a t-shirt like any other. I'm not trying to promote a certain belief, nor do I want to offend anyone.

What do you think? Poll up shortly.
Last edited by sashki at Aug 28, 2010,
#2
even though you're not trying to support communism, wearing a CCCP shirt does give the impression that you are.
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#3
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even though you're not trying to support communism, wearing a CCCP shirt does give the impression that you are.

My friend likes to wear a "I ♥ NY" shirt. Does that give the impression that he supports capitalism?
#6
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My friend likes to wear a "I ♥ NY" shirt. Does that give the impression that he supports capitalism?


No, that gives the impression that he loves NY. A symbol of capitalism would be money signs or something. A sickle and hammer is the symbol of communism, which makes it seem like you support it.
#7
^that.

^^and the guy above him.
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#8
I wouldn't wear it unless i supported it at least somewhat.
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#9
The icon you're wearing has become directly associated with communism. While NY is a good representation of capitalism, it does not carry the same stigma. Right now it just means you <3 New York.
#13
I had a t-shirt which said "I heart Munich".


I shall admit, I have never even been. But I loved the film.
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#18
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If it didn't have the hammer and sickle, would it still give the same impression?


Less people would know what it was but to those who knew yes. The hammer and sickle didn't kill millions. The CCCP did.
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#21
I wouldn't wear one with CCCP on it, the hammer and sickle perhaps but not CCCP.
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#22
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So has nearly every modern country at some point.


Rarely deliberately and never on the scale that happened in the USSR. The scale of the purges simply boggles the mind.
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#23
I hate commies but still dig the shirt so I give shout-outs to dudes I see wearin CCCP gear, especially hockey jerseys. Those teams were nasty...though cheaters :/
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#24
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Rarely deliberately and never on the scale that happened in the USSR. The scale of the purges simply boggles the mind.

I dunno, the Belgian congo sure does give it a run for its money in the horribleness stakes.
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#25
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I dunno, the Belgian congo sure does give it a run for its money in the horribleness stakes.


True but even then it was never as swift and industrial a process as in the USSR (although Nazi Germany takes the cake for industrialised mass murder). And if we're playing a purely numbers game here in comparison nothing even comes close.
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#26
Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely not every soviet leader was as bad as Stalin in terms of mass murders?

I would not wear a Stalin t-shirt
(he's not as good looking as Che Guevara)
#27
Quote by sashki
Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely not every soviet leader was as bad as Stalin in terms of mass murders?

I would not wear a Stalin t-shirt
(he's not as good looking as Che Guevara)


No where near as bad but Lenin seriously limited freedom of speech and allowed the Cheka to run wild (executions all over the place). Khrushchev wasn't as bad but the KGB was formally introduced under him (actually an improvement over the previous state police but still...) and Brezhnev was in power during the purges of the Eastern block parties. And the labour camps continued to run throughout (although with improved conditions). My history beyond that is currently not as good as I would like.

Really anyone looks like a saint compared to Stalin.

EDIT: oh god they actually exist.

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#28
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EDIT: oh god they actually exist.


I believe in an equally mixed economy of socialism and capitalism instead of communist but I do want that shirt just to scare my old McCarthy-esque history teacher.
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#29
Wearing it out in public is just an iffy issue. You can wear a shirt with the hammer and sickle on it to let everybody know about your politics, sure. You've got a right to do that. You've also got a right to wear a shirt with CCCP on it, but be away that some folks who see that will be reminded of a horrible past they had to live though while you wear it nonchalantly as if it means nothing. That goes for anything you wear in public though. In my cousin's kitchen they have some posters from the USSR when they grew up there hanging around as satire. This one in particular:




But none of them would even think about wearing anything associated with promoting the CCCP in public. They escaped the CCCP for a reason. A better life. Maybe in close company it'd be fine because it doesn't mean much, but don't be sore if you draw some nasty looks from folks on the street.
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#30
I wear stuff like that all the time just for fun. I hate all political ideologies so it's like who cares?
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#32
You have to picture it as a Swastika, just a lot less harmful.

Some people will think you're a bit dinky in the head and some might even be offended or hurt.
#33
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I wear stuff like that all the time just for fun. I hate all political ideologies so it's like who cares?

The folks who had to live through political ideologies put into real practice care.
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#34
I got a pair of red underwear that have CCCP written on the butt side.
and if you smell something stinking around here it's me..... cos I'm the shit!!
#35
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The folks who had to live through political ideologies put into real practice care.

I understand this, but most people who comment on it are teenagers.

My dad, who bought the shirt, doesn't have a problem with it. He certainly isn't a communist. He grew up in the soviet union and left the country as soon as he had the opportunity, even though his family didn't want him to leave, it turned out to be for the better.

I guess for him it's a nostalgic thing. Oppressive regimes and mass murder, while they are a significant feature of soviet history, are not part of his experience. To him, the USSR is his youth.

I don't have any first-hand experience with it. I go by what (little) I know about the history of it. I don't mind if it implies communism, but I would not want it to imply mass murder.
#36
I wouldn't wear it unless I held at least some of their beliefs.


I'm not going to wear a shirt that promotes something I don't at all support.
#37
Quote by jagershlag
It gives the impression that he loves New York.




It's a t-shirt. Ultimately, it doesn't really matter, just wear what you like wearing. I'm thinking of having shirts printed, however, since I've been looking around and basically all the ones that exist suck.

Although, I would wear a CCCP shirt.
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#39
Quote by sashki

I get a lot of comments on it from strangers. Some people just point an laugh. Is it offensive or morally wrong to wear a CCCP shirt?

What??

Go ahead and wear it if you want to. Where do you live now? I can understand people not liking it Russia/Former Soviet areas, or possibly America (though I doubt half of them even know what the CCCP is). But even if your in those areas, who cares? There's nothing wrong with it.
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