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#2
"Essentially, it's about taking trolling to the nth degree and saying: 'Let's put all the trolls in one place and see what happens.'"

Sounds about right.
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#6
I can see how people would be offended (I personally think that 4chan can be hilarious and also often a bit close to the bone) but, just like walking outside your front door, the internet can be as nasty a place as real life. Any parent who allows their children to surf the net unsupervised can't really complain when their kids eventually view unsavoury content. Would they let their children be misled by allowing them to talk to strangers on the street? The point is simple: Keep an eye on your kids and if they find something initially innocent that ends up being a wolf in sheeps clothing, don't go back to that site.

Darryl, Glasgow, UK

I think Darryl from Glasgow hit the nail on the head there.

The thing I don't agree with when it comes to 4chan is the death threats and harassment irl. It's all very well over the internet, but recieving death threats to your own home and calls to your workplace just isn't on.
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#8
Whatever.


I just think it's funny that some 4chan users seem to think that 4chan is still some little known site. There have been numerous news stories about them, and the site has millions of users.


I'm also not cool with the lengths some of the users go to when harassing someone. Revealing all of their private info and sending them death threats is crossing the line.
#9
Another 4chan favourite is Pedobear, a harmless-looking ursoid cartoon character who, despite his loveable appearance... you get the idea.



Also I think the regulars on 4Chan are sad, I have been on it once and it's just a big mess to me
#10
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The thing I don't agree with when it comes to 4chan is the death threats and harassment irl. It's all very well over the internet, but recieving death threats to your own home and calls to your workplace just isn't on.


+1.
#11
I swear the Beeb puts a new article out explaining and recapping the activities of 4chan every time they do something. It's really rather dull.
#12
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Whatever.


I just think it's funny that some 4chan users seem to think that 4chan is still some little known site. There have been numerous news stories about them, and the site has millions of users.


I'm also not cool with the lengths some of the users go to when harassing someone. Revealing all of their private info and sending them death threats is crossing the line.



I disagree. If you are that much of a coldhearted bitch that you will pet a cat then toss it in a trashcan, you are asking for some repercussions.
#13
The fact they are anonymous tells me that they are cowards. It really easy to be offensive when you can hide in your mums house. The Lizard, UK


The irony.
#14
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I disagree. If you are that much of a coldhearted bitch that you will pet a cat then toss it in a trashcan, you are asking for some repercussions.

http://gawker.com/5590166/11+year+old-viral-video-star-placed-under-police-protection-after-death-threats
Not so funny when you're 11 years old. That cat lady isn't the only one to have recieved threats from 4chan irl, and lets be honest, there are far worse things that people have done then just putting a cat in a bin.
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#15
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http://gawker.com/5590166/11+year+old-viral-video-star-placed-under-police-protection-after-death-threats
Not so funny when you're 11 years old. That cat lady isn't the only one to have recieved threats from 4chan irl, and lets be honest, there are far worse things that people have done then just putting a cat in a bin.


True, but that woman isn't 11 years old either. I was speaking in just the case of that woman.

Sure people have done worse things, but she is feeling the repercussions, as she should. Maybe she will wise up and not be so cold hearted now.
#16
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The thing I don't agree with when it comes to 4chan is the death threats and harassment irl. It's all very well over the internet, but recieving death threats to your own home and calls to your workplace just isn't on.


There's no real difference between harassment online and offline.

The arbitrary distinction is part of the problem.
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#17
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True, but that woman isn't 11 years old either. I was speaking in just the case of that woman.

Sure people have done worse things, but she is feeling the repercussions, as she should. Maybe she will wise up and not be so cold hearted now.

In the case of that woman I still stand by my opinion. It's just a cat.


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There's no real difference between harassment online and offline.

The arbitrary distinction is part of the problem.

Really? Would like anon calling your workplace or your home phone. At least you can switch the computer off.
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#18
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In the case of that woman I still stand by my opinion. It's just a cat.

It's alive, it was crying and it's unneeded violence. It's very similar to a baby. It can't defend itself. So what's wrong with putting a baby in a bin? It's just a baby. It's not like we don't have millions of them.
#19
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In the case of that woman I still stand by my opinion. It's just a cat.


I wouldn't mind you getting the same fate as her then. You should never make another living animal suffer just because you see as a "lower" lifeform than yourself.

And if you do not see cat's as a "lower" lifeform then you see them equal to us, in which case, lets throw you into something you can't get out of, after all, you are just a human.
#20
Quote by L.A.P.D.
I disagree. If you are that much of a coldhearted bitch that you will pet a cat then toss it in a trashcan, you are asking for some repercussions.


Yeah, like having your personal details released so any old mental cunt can do what he wants. Justified, reasonable repercussions like that are to be expected when you do something mildly cruel to a cat.
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#21
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Really? Would like anon calling your workplace or your home phone. At least you can switch the computer off.


Switch the computer off. And then what? never go on the computer again?

... create a new online persona?

isn't that the thing that enables the harassers? The lack of personal repercussion allows people to act in ways that nobody would consider acceptable in real life such as that young girl telling people to die of aids and suck her non-existent ****.

how is her behaviour any better than death threats? 'go die of aids' isn't exactly acceptable behaviour. The only difference is the amount of people on one side.
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#22
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I wouldn't mind you getting the same fate as her then. You should never make another living animal suffer just because you see as a "lower" lifeform than yourself.

And if you do not see cat's as a "lower" lifeform then you see them equal to us, in which case, lets throw you into something you can't get out of, after all, you are just a human.

I'm not saying she shouldn't be punished. Take to her court, whatever, animal cruelty is illegal and I certainly don't condone it. While I may be disgusted by the woman's actions, I don't feel that they deserve death threats and abuse.
I just think people should be above this sort of thing.
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#23
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I'm not saying she shouldn't be punished. Take to her court, whatever, animal cruelty is illegal and I certainly don't condone it. While I may be disgusted by the woman's actions, I don't feel that they deserve death threats and abuse.
I just think people should be above this sort of thing.


I think people should be above animal abuse, but clearly this is not the case.


No one else was going to do anything about the footage, this was the only way she would have gotten punished. Now I will agree there are many better ways to do this than the way 4chan did, but some punishment is better than none. Hopefully she has learned her lesson.
#25
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I wouldn't mind you getting the same fate as her then. You should never make another living animal suffer just because you see as a "lower" lifeform than yourself.

And if you do not see cat's as a "lower" lifeform then you see them equal to us, in which case, lets throw you into something you can't get out of, after all, you are just a human.



So you think someone who kills a cat should go to jail for life just like someone that kills another human being?


#26
He is New Yorker Christopher Poole, who set up the site while a 15-year-old living at home with his mum.


That makes it sound really really bad. Of course if he's 15, he's gonna be living at home.
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#27
Some of the people on the comments section need to get a life, a few of the ones like "Dey shud all get jerbs". You've got to take 4chan for what it is, people having a bit of fun and a laugh. Sure, things like the youtube porn do cross a line, but those are pretty rare occurances and as a whole the bad stuff stays at 4chan, with only harmless memes escaping regularly. It's not like real life where you can't help it if you get mugged, with 4chan you can just not visit the website.
#28
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Some of the people on the comments section need to get a life, a few of the ones like "Dey shud all get jerbs". You've got to take 4chan for what it is, people having a bit of fun and a laugh. Sure, things like the youtube porn do cross a line, but those are pretty rare occurances and as a whole the bad stuff stays at 4chan, with only harmless memes escaping regularly. It's not like real life where you can't help it if you get mugged, with 4chan you can just not visit the website.



The point is that they sometimes step outside the realm of the internet and harass people in real life. That's not cool.


I'm all for a bit of fun on the internet, but when you expose someone's personal info, and start sending them death threats it isn't funny anymore.
#29
But you have to admit, the way some of em protested against scientology with the fawkes masks was hilarious
#30
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The point is that they sometimes step outside the realm of the internet and harass people in real life. That's not cool.


I'm all for a bit of fun on the internet, but when you expose someone's personal info, and start sending them death threats it isn't funny anymore.

That counts as 'crossing the line' or whatever I said.
#31
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The point is that they sometimes step outside the realm of the internet and harass people in real life. That's not cool.


I'm all for a bit of fun on the internet, but when you expose someone's personal info, and start sending them death threats it isn't funny anymore.

there shouldn't be a distinction between online and offline. Harassing someone over facebook or youtube or whatever other site can have exactly the same effects as harassing someone in 'real life'.

Because the damage isn't right in front of someone, they don't care about the consequences. Add in anonymity and you have the recipe for 4chan's userbase.

There'll be people reading this thinking 'internet is srs bsns, lol' but explain to me the difference between online havoc and offline havoc?

if it's actually harmless, fair enough. But when it isn't, there shouldn't be this distinction between the 'real world' and the internet.
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#32
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there shouldn't be a distinction between online and offline. Harassing someone over facebook or youtube or whatever other site can have exactly the same effects as harassing someone in 'real life'.

Because the damage isn't right in front of someone, they don't care about the consequences. Add in anonymity and you have the recipe for 4chan's userbase.

There'll be people reading this thinking 'internet is srs bsns, lol' but explain to me the difference between online havoc and offline havoc?

if it's actually harmless, fair enough. But when it isn't, there shouldn't be this distinction between the 'real world' and the internet.



I know. I remember reading the stories about kids who killed themselves because of harassment they received online.

I think in general though it is a lot easier to get away from online harassment than from real life harassment. If someone on this site kept sending me harassing PMs I could just block them or stop using the site. If someone keeps calling my home or work to harass me it is a little more difficult to simply avoid them. Or if someone is sending letters to my house. Or yelling at me on the streets. It's a bit different.


That certainly doesn't justify online harassment of course.
#33
Hmmm, have they found the puppy thrower yet?

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#34
I think the Jessi Slaughter thing was quite disgusting but hell, this is why I think people under 13 shouldn't be allowed to upload videos etc of themselves to the internet because all of them are retarded to some degree and preteens can't cope with the harassment that can be dealt upon them from the internet.

Also, since when did people here support mob justice? For a crime committed upon a cat?

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#35
Look, I'm not gonna say everyone who goes there is a basement-dweller or an asshole. But this harassment shit has to stop. And all this, "We think we're bad, because we can stand outside places wearing our fucking Guy Fawkes masks."

edit: I wish they'd try that kind of stupid protesting while I'm in London, so I could watch the police beat their asses and mace them.
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#36
As with every "Wild West" phenomenon it will eventually lead to legislation which will outlaw it.

At one time in America you could smoke a joint, cook meth or acid, take Ecstasy or any other drug, really, until someone took it too far and now there's a law against it.

Not saying doing drugs is right, but the end result is I can't choose to smoke an innocent joint without risk of arrest.

Likewise, a bit of funny prankery on the internet is all in good fun, but when (not if, because it will happen) someone actually dies as a result then there will be limits placed on all of us. There's no stopping it, really, though. This sort of thing always seems to emerge on a new frontier before the establishment converges on a defined response.

Some asshole decided to crash a plane into the WTC on 9/11 and now I can't bring a Mountain Dew on an airplane.

Thanks, douchebag!!
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#38
Mob Justice ? Its everywhere i guess.. as for here ? well.. 4chan and the other online communities have partaken in this;

Obviously because we all have our own input and thoughts about todays culture.. But mainly because the internet has become a global network for people to complain, fight and most of all protest about topics related too our own society !

This mainly being the reason that governments are too fking lazy too do anything themselves, so we all form vigilante at the only place someone will listen too us !?

It works all of what maybe 5% of the time ? Hey.. its better than nothing IMO
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#39
In 2009 YouTube was forced to remove hundreds of pornographic videos apparently uploaded by 4chan users.



well i give 4chan one thing, they are persistant
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#40
[quote="'-[NiL"]-']Look, I'm not gonna say everyone who goes there is a basement-dweller or an asshole. But this harassment shit has to stop. And all this, "We think we're bad, because we can stand outside places wearing our fucking Guy Fawkes masks."

edit: I wish they'd try that kind of stupid protesting while I'm in London, so I could watch the police beat their asses and mace them.
they've done that 'stupid protesting' in London many times, there has been no reprts of police violence at all. And you'd think that they of all people would spread it around the internet like there's no tomorrow.

How would you have them protest?
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