#1
Does such a thing exist? I know some of the older Ibanez Destroyers were 25.5 inch scale, but they're really expensive. I'm thinking about making my next custom build an explorer, but I wanna try it out for a few weeks first. Any sub $500 dollar explorers that are 25 or 25.5 inch scale? I'm highly against 24.75 and that's what most explorers I've found seem to be.
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#3
That's like kelly star-ish, not really an explorer persay. And considering the monster explorer I'm gonna have built for around $1400, this one for $1000 isn't too appealing. Nice to know that there are some out there though! Any other suggestions?
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#5
The Dean Mustaine signature explorer is 25.5" scale. but its also a dean.......
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As if those 0.75 inches would make such a hughe diffrence! *Oh my, I can't play on those almost identical but smaller frets...*

Use a higher string gauge and get used to the scale length!
#7
I didn't ask for your opinion of my scale preference. I prefer 25 and 25.5 because the 24.75 inch scale never intonates properly to my ears. If open chords are in tune, barre chords are not, etc. It just never sounds right. So, I prefer 25 and 25.5. The guy who builds most of my guitars says the same thing. It's the reason he hasn't played his Gibson LP in 16 years.

Some may disagree with this, but I experienced it firsthand. I bought 3-4 different 24.75 scale guitars over time and each one had this issue.
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A Carvin V220 maybe? you already own an Ultra V, so why not?


As much as i love Carvin i just don't like that shape, too funky for me.
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As much as i love Carvin i just don't like that shape, too funky for me.


mmm, understood, you could try Warmoth and see if they'll do a custom one for ya, that should be under 1k, some assembly is required though.
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I didn't ask for your opinion of my scale preference. I prefer 25 and 25.5 because the 24.75 inch scale never intonates properly to my ears. If open chords are in tune, barre chords are not, etc. It just never sounds right. So, I prefer 25 and 25.5. The guy who builds most of my guitars says the same thing. It's the reason he hasn't played his Gibson LP in 16 years.

Some may disagree with this, but I experienced it firsthand. I bought 3-4 different 24.75 scale guitars over time and each one had this issue.

I have this issue with all 24.75" guitfiddles as well. My old PRS on the other hand never had this problem.

Anyway, 25" is uncommon as it is - the only makers I can think of off the top of my head are Carvin and PRS. As for 25.5"... you mention the Ibanez Destroyer. Well, there's the somewhat more recent Ibanez DT770 which also has a 25.5". It's a tad more than $500 though.
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mmm, understood, you could try Warmoth and see if they'll do a custom one for ya, that should be under 1k, some assembly is required though.

A good suggestion but unless I'm misreading the OP he's already planning on doing exactly that (though not necessarily with Warmoth). He's just after something to get used to Explorers.
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#11
Warmoth is the way to go.
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As if those 0.75 inches would make such a hughe diffrence! *Oh my, I can't play on those almost identical but smaller frets...*

Use a higher string gauge and get used to the scale length!


Some people like longer scales, some shorter.

If someone insists on a 24" or 24.75" or a 25" or 25.5" or whatever, so be it.

Anyways, I think Krammer might have a 25.5" Explorer... I might be thinking of a 25.5" LP though.
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#13
If you're in America, there is an Explorer copy at Rondo that is 25.25".

http://www.rondomusic.com/EG2BOBK.HTML
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Quote by EyeHatePunks
As if those 0.75 inches would make such a hughe diffrence! *Oh my, I can't play on those almost identical but smaller frets...*

Use a higher string gauge and get used to the scale length!



It actually does make a big difference. I can't stand the way 24.75" scale guitars feel, and that's why I stay away from them.

If it didn't matter, then there wouldn't be multiple scales, would there?
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Quote by EyeHatePunks
As if those 0.75 inches would make such a hughe diffrence! *Oh my, I can't play on those almost identical but smaller frets...*

Use a higher string gauge and get used to the scale length!


It actually does. A 25.5 scale will never sound or feel like a real Explorer.
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#15
I don't want it to, lol. The inherent problems in the 24.75 scale keep me away.

FlyingCouch had it nailed...I just want a cheap explorer to mess with for a few weeks to see if i wanna go ahead with my custom project. I work with a private luthier who builds most of my guitars, so warmoth would be unnecessary. here's the latest one I designed and had built by him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fguzl0bSFxA

But yeah, Kramer does have a 25 inch explorer from what I've found. It's a bit hard to find but I think that might work for me.
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#17
Yep, that's the one that was referred to before. Gotta check it out, looks good. I just finished planning out the specs for my custom explorer, so hopefully it all works out
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Quoted from my first post: "any sub-$500 dollar explorers that are 25 or 25.5 inch scale".
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#20
+1 to the guy who said Dave Mustaine's new sig. The Zero looks bitchin, and it's a 25.5 with 24 frets too
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+1 to the guy who said Dave Mustaine's new sig. The Zero looks bitchin, and it's a 25.5 with 24 frets too


It's also $1000, which is double the amount I said I wanna spend. I don't understand why people can't be bothered to actually read someone's question before answering it lol.
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#22
Quote by CustomAxe
I didn't ask for your opinion of my scale preference. I prefer 25 and 25.5 because the 24.75 inch scale never intonates properly to my ears. If open chords are in tune, barre chords are not, etc. It just never sounds right. So, I prefer 25 and 25.5. The guy who builds most of my guitars says the same thing. It's the reason he hasn't played his Gibson LP in 16 years.

Some may disagree with this, but I experienced it firsthand. I bought 3-4 different 24.75 scale guitars over time and each one had this issue.


Sorry but no guitars intonate perfectly.

Unless you get the mad looking ones with the fanned frets.

But i doubt even then they intonate perfectly.

Why exactly would scale length affect how well a guitar intonates anyway? Not saying it doesnt, but i personally dont see why itd make a difference.