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#1
Hey guys. I've been looking at the Blackstar range. I'm wondering if the HT-60 could do metal well? Sorry if this has been asked before.
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#3
How would you say it compared to a Bugera 333XL or a Peavy 6505?
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#4
It definitely can. It'll go extreme with a boost.
#6
I've played the HT-40, 60 and 100 and they all need a boost for modern metal. They are pretty lacking in stock form, but with a tube swap and an OD they are great especially for the price
#7
He does? awesome.

What's the difference between the HT stage 60 and the 60 soloist?
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#8
Quote by Fisheth24
How would you say it compared to a Bugera 333XL or a Peavy 6505?


The Blackstar is much better than the Bugera.

I'd say its equally good an amp as the Peavey 6505+, although I reckon the Peavey would have more gain if you're looking for really heavy stuff (Periphery, Meshuggah, etc)

(I'm assuming you're referring to the 6505+ 112 combo)
Last edited by mishax92 at Sep 6, 2010,
#9
Quote by mishax92
The Blackstar is much better than the Bugera.

I'd say its equally good an amp as the Peavey 6505+, although I reckon the Peavey would have more gain if you're looking for really heavy stuff (Periphery, Meshuggah, etc)

(I'm assuming you're referring to the 6505+ 112 combo)


Yeah, I'm referring to that amp.

I kinda play anything and everything from blues to metal core to thrash and to stuff like Nile.

Would you mind taking a look in my profile and clicking on all my tracks and see which amp would do me better?

Thanks!
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#10
Quote by Fisheth24
How would you say it compared to a Bugera 333XL or a Peavy 6505?



The Blackstar is way more versatile. I can do those tones with less fizz.

Check out the new Randall RT503 too. .
#11
Quote by 667
The Blackstar is way more versatile. I can do those tones with less fizz.

Check out the new Randall RT503 too. .


Damn, I'm in the UK. Randalls are pretty hard to find over here. I'll look at that amp though.
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#12
Quote by 667
The Blackstar is way more versatile. I can do those tones with less fizz.

Check out the new Randall RT503 too. .

Sorry but the Bugera 333XL is far more versatile than any Blackstar. I like Blackstar too but (In their stock form) they tend to be thin and muddy.
#13
Quote by AxSilentxLine
Sorry but the Bugera 333XL is far more versatile than any Blackstar. I like Blackstar too but (In their stock form) they tend to be thin and muddy.


So what would I have to do to the blackstar to get it to play modern metal?
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#14
Hmm, if you're satisfied with the amounts of gain you tend to use on the songs on your profile, I'd say go for the Blackstar. If you're looking to get heavier sounding tones, I'd recommend the Peavey.
#15
I'd say the Blackstar with a Maxon OD808 would be perfect for just about eveything metal.
#16
Quote by mishax92
Hmm, if you're satisfied with the amounts of gain you tend to use on the songs on your profile, I'd say go for the Blackstar. If you're looking to get heavier sounding tones, I'd recommend the Peavey.


That's the problem. I really like both amps.
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#17
Quote by Fisheth24
So what would I have to do to the blackstar to get it to play modern metal?

As I said a tube swap and a good OD in front and you'll have yourself a great sounding amp. Blackstar is a bit of an accquired taste, they sound like darker Marshalls to me. The HT-100 is like a darker DSL100, a tone some love, and some hate. They tame the icepick highs that plagued the Marshalls nicely.
Last edited by AxSilentxLine at Sep 6, 2010,
#18
Quote by AxSilentxLine
As I said a tube swap and a good OD in front and you'll have yourself a great sounding amp


Sorry to say this man, but I'm a Tube n00b. I haven't got a clue about them.

What sort of tubes would you suggest? and would a digitech Bad Monkey be a decent overdrive?
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#19
I play in a funk/rock band and my other guitarists uses my Blackstar and it works great for our sound. But everyone once and a while he'll fiddle with his settings and get a great metal tone that he'll play around with for a while.
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#20
Quote by Fisheth24
Sorry to say this man, but I'm a Tube n00b. I haven't got a clue about them.

What sort of tubes would you suggest? and would a digitech Bad Monkey be a decent overdrive?

A Bad Monkey would work fine, and any amp tech will be able to swap the tubes easily for you. They use EL34's, and with a matched set and a bit of research online you can change tubes easily yourself.
#21
I really didn't like the Blackstar I tried. It was too dark and muddy for my taste. I like bright crunch with an American flavor.
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You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#22
Quote by AxSilentxLine
A Bad Monkey would work fine, and any amp tech will be able to swap the tubes easily for you. They use EL34's, and with a matched set and a bit of research online you can change tubes easily yourself.


True. So, what sort of tubes could get me a modern metal voicing? Or am I totally misunderstanding here...
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#23
Well the tubes don't change the voicing of the amp as much as you might think. With preamp tube swaps and experimentation you can shape the gain characteristics but the voicing pretty much remains. The HT-40 and up are capable of modern metal.
#24
So how do I increase the gain to do modern metal? do I need to do anything at all except buy pedals, etc?

Or am I on the wrong track? I'm a noob to tube amps xD
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#25
It has enough gain for modern metal. It's about EQing and shaping that gain which is done with OD pedals, EQ pedals, and a tube swap. OD will tighten and focus the gain, an EQ will shape your sound, and a tube swap is just a good idea cause the stock tubes blow tbh.

Metal isn't about how much gain you have, it's about how you use and deliver it
#26
Quote by AxSilentxLine
It has enough gain for modern metal. It's about EQing and shaping that gain which is done with OD pedals, EQ pedals, and a tube swap. OD will tighten and focus the gain, an EQ will shape your sound, and a tube swap is just a good idea cause the stock tubes blow tbh.

Metal isn't about how much gain you have, it's about how you use and deliver it


So what would I need to buy to shape the gain right?
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#28
Have done, but I didn't understand how it all works. (I'm having a blonde day today)
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#29
I would recommend an OD like the Bad Monkey and an EQ pedal. People swear by the MXR 10 band EQ but I haven't tried one yet personally. To be honest I use a cheap Legacy EQ pedal and it does the job fine it's very responsive and has a cool clean dB boost of +/- 20dB
#30
How much would each of those be? cause there already is an EQ on the amp. So what sort of bonus does a pedal give me?
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#31
Yes there is an EQ on the amp but it shapes the preamp. Most people find an EQ in the FX loop is much more effective, and it just gives you much greater control over your sound. Bad Monkey and a basic EQ like a Danelectro Fish n Chips, well, they're cheap as chips
Last edited by AxSilentxLine at Sep 6, 2010,
#32
Right. would a behringer EQ pedal be ok? Even though they are terrible quality etc.
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#33
ehh most Behringer stuff is subpar but honestly their stompboxes are not bad for the price and what they are. An EQ doesn't implement any special circuits per se, so as long as the components aren't complete garbage they don't vary much from brand to brand. Some brands are more responsive, but they essentially all do the same thing.

I think to start out at least a behringer EQ would do fine
#34
Ok. Thanks a lot. So, what sort of modern tones could the Blackstar do?
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#36
What do you mean by gain on tap?

So it could do KSE? That's the sort of gain level I'm looking for.

Could it do like Firewind, Manowar, Maiden and Early testament like sounds?
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#38
Thanks. So when you mean Gain on tap you mean stock too?
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#39
yes. OD's, EQ's and tube swaps don't give it any more distortion than it already has, just focuses it and lets you control it better
Last edited by AxSilentxLine at Sep 6, 2010,
#40
Pretty much what AxSilentxLine has said.
Also TS i like your songs
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