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#41
Quote by james4
mmmm, that neck's gonna be pretty hot

and have you come up with any more ideas for inlays?
I'm always a big fan of offset tiny dots, but just a single 12th fret inlay would look pretty cool too
Not yet, but then again I don't even have the fretboard yet. Currently I'm thinking of a single 12th fret inlay but that also depends on the 'customer'.

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how difficult is it to work with such figured wood when you need to do so much jointing? Isn't there a risk of some major tear-out?
There's always the risk of tearout but it's not really very difficult, you just have to be careful. Going slowly and taking off only a little at a time should do the trick. Sharp blades on the jointer help a lot.
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#42
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#43
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I just raged a little because I was expecting an UPDATE.
#45
Phew... the top wood has finally arrived! I glued it last week and after that it went through a drum sander and at the moment it's been rough cut and waiting to be glued on the body. The piece was big enough so I got a headstock veneer out of it also and I still have some leftover for testing colours or something. I also cut the bodywood roughly to shape and now I just need to decide whether I want to make part of it hollow or not.

I also got a fretboard blank so now I can begin inlaying. ...if I have time that is. We're moving to the other side of the city (proud owner of an apartment now) and a lot of time will be spent packing and moving stuff so don't expect a lot of progress to be made during a week or two.

Here's the body atm. Needs routing for pup wires.


Topwood...


...and a matching headstock veneer.


Ebony fb. I just love this stuff!
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#47
When it comes to guitarbuilding, getting a new job and moving to a new house are about the worst things to do. It feels like I don't have any time for this build anymore so obviously there's something wrong with the current circumstances. Anyway, I've got something done too in the past weeks and I'll probably post a few pics tomorrow.

After some debate, we decided not to make the body hollow with an f-hole thingy and went with a flat top instead. It's a whole new perspective for me to make a guitar following someone elses wishes and preferences but I like the challenge and a fresh view it gives me.
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Looks good man. Ever thought of doing an H-S-H design?
Thanks. My first one is a H-S-H and while I really love the tone I get from the middle singlecoil SD SSL-4, I don't find it THAT much more versatile than H-H. Plus I think H-H looks better
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#48
Here you go. Crap pics though, didn't have enough light for my old digicam.

The top is glued on and body is partly bandsawed and sanded close to shape.





This is the reason for not bandsawing all around. This way I have better support for routing the back cavities. Cavities were drilled first as usual and then routed by hand (well, I used a plywood guide on the straight parts) to shape. Maybe next week I'll have time to finish these. This will also have the angled jack. After I've gotten used to it I wouldn't do it any other way (unless ofcourse the future owner decides otherwise).
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#49
Lookin' good man!
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#51
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its definatly and 8 string baritone fanned fret neck-through with 27 frets,

as kurt from rondo music once said 8 IS NOT ENOUGH. better make it 9
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#53
I agree with vodkanoodle, that's some steady hands there.
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#54
Quote by vodkanoodle
You are a brave man to freehand route.... I'm not trying to insult you because form the quality of your builds, you are well capable. But how the hell do you not make a mistake? You should become a brain surgeon.
Well, it's not that bad if you go slow and have a good support for the router. Besides, I only freehand the inside part of the cavity and only the non-straight parts. To me it doesn't matter much if the inside of the cavity isn't absolutely perfect 'cause normally no-one sees it anyway. The recesses and everything else are done with templates.

I've now bandsawed the body all around and sanded close to shape. That's also about all that's going to happen in a month or so... Meanwhile I'll try to come up with somekind of inlay design and order all the hardware.

Here are the cavities routed clean. There's also the pup wire channel.


Angled jack hole done.




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#56
Jen, you have just given the entire GB&C the best Christmas present known to man. Your like Jesus mixed with Santa.


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#57
Here again, happy 2011 GB&C

It's been awhile and I haven't done half of what I thought I'd do during the holidays and this month but anyway... I thought I'd at least have the fb inlays made but no. We tried and tried to come up with a good design but all of them felt a bit "meh..." so we ditched them. Might even go with no inlays at all. The latest progress is that I got the truss cavity routed.

Using a stewmac hotrod again. In the background are the still NOT inlaid fb and headstock veneer.



Here's the cavity and you can see it's a couple of tenths deeper at the ends.



The rod in the cavity. Notice how these projects begin to look all the same??

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#58
That is one hell of a nice looking neck!
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#59
Demotivation and inspiration at the same, I believe that means you're talented, sir.


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#60
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*stickies before theres even pics*

For some reason I read this as one post. Lulz were had

OT: That wood is gorgeous, and this build looks awesome
#62
Thanks everyone. I seem to be super lazy taking progress pics this time around. My work and some house improvement have been taking all my time lately and to be honest, there haven't really been an awful lot to take pictures of anyway. However, I wouldn't dare post after this much time without at least a couple of them so here you go. Since the last post I've glued on the fb and headstock veneer and I've bandsawn the whole neck roughly to shape and routed the edges clean. If I'm going to make any kind of fb inlay, it would be about time now...

Here's the headstock with markings for tuning machine positions and shape drawn in.


Neck heel routed clean.
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#64
you wouldn't believe how much this makes me want to go get some curly maple....How is it to work with?
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#65
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you wouldn't believe how much this makes me want to go get some curly maple....How is it to work with?
It's a bit trickier to work with than "normal" wood. Jointer / thickness planer can tear up the wood but if you have sharp blades and only take away very little at a time it's doable. In my opinion, the best for thicknessing would be a thickness sander. Hand tools are a bit more difficult to use too, I tried shaping a curly maple neck with a spokeshave but ended up using a table belt sander. The same happened with the body, I began shaping the top with this...



...but ended up sanding it too. With a sander it's not so easy to accidentally take away too much. As with other guitar building (or general woodworking) methods too, I'd suggest you to try it out and find the way that suits you best.
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#66
Hmm, I'll think about it. If it tore out too much, I'd just go with a flat top then.
I don't have a jointer yet, I just use my router with a straight edge It works, and saves me money for now, so why not?
I wasn't planning on using it on the neck, so that makes it easier on me too
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#67
Quote by jenrg
It's a bit trickier to work with than "normal" wood. Jointer / thickness planer can tear up the wood but if you have sharp blades and only take away very little at a time it's doable. In my opinion, the best for thicknessing would be a thickness sander. Hand tools are a bit more difficult to use too, I tried shaping a curly maple neck with a spokeshave but ended up using a table belt sander.



Have you tried only using a rasp? I found that on my laminated flame neck, it wasn't terribly hard to do and I did not experience any tearout at all. Bear in mind it was 5 equally sized pieces, Sapele/Flamed Maple/S/FM/S, so that may have had something to do with it, but with the maple I had no tearout by using a rasp.
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#68
I have bad experiences in general with spokeshaves and drawknives, they chipped no matter what way i went. Sure, iwas younger and rushed, but my rasp never disappoints.
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#69
Rasps just take so damn long! I can get a neck I am happier with in less than half the time than with a rasp.

How do you do the fretboard? Do you just buy a flat non slotted one and do it yourself? It looks like you are going to radius it after its already on the neck. Do you just use a block?
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#70
Quote by xstillspinninx
Rasps just take so damn long! I can get a neck I am happier with in less than half the time than with a rasp.

How do you do the fretboard? Do you just buy a flat non slotted one and do it yourself? It looks like you are going to radius it after its already on the neck. Do you just use a block?


It depends on the wood, and how much you gotta take off. a well adjusted spokeshave works well, but a rasp is good for making the rough profile, then using a finer one then sanding it and your done.

Keeping it unradiused would make clamipng it on easier, but not by much unless you have a very high radii
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#71
^ I was thinking it would make routing the neck shape really easy. I did that on the neck and it worked well, but my preradiused and slotted fretboard is kind of a pain to cut... I had to rough cut it on the bandsaw, line it up on the neck, glue it on, then carefully sand off the saw marks.
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#73
Quote by xstillspinninx
Rasps just take so damn long! I can get a neck I am happier with in less than half the time than with a rasp.

How do you do the fretboard? Do you just buy a flat non slotted one and do it yourself? It looks like you are going to radius it after its already on the neck. Do you just use a block?
I've used a flat pre-slotted board for all my builds. With a flat board it's easier to do inlays and clamp it on. I've also always radiused the board when it's on the neck already. For radiusing I use a stewmac block.
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#75
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Can't wait.................give me more!!!!
Here you go. Only a small update and really crappy pics though. I really have to get me a new digicam, the one I've taken these with dates back to 2004 and it has seen better days.

Drilled the tuner holes.


Thicknessed the headstock.


Test fit with tuners in place. They are the same kind that I used in the Flame, only with big buttons. The bridge will also be the same, these two are a bit like sister models. This one will be the dark side of the flame


And the backside.
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#77
Those tuners are sexy, what kind are they?
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#78
Gotoh?
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#79
It looks like your e string and e string tuners are going to hit your headstock. You might want to look into that before you get too far.

It looks like the rest should clear once you cut the headstock down to your lines though.
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#80
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It looks like your e string and e string tuners are going to hit your headstock. You might want to look into that before you get too far.

It looks like the rest should clear once you cut the headstock down to your lines though.


He'll be fine; he still has to file/sand/route/whatever to the line.
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
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