#1
hi im probably one of 500 asking about amps on this forum... but eh anyways ive been in the market for a tube amp for around $300, and i will buy used.

ive been looking at a used peavey vypyr 60w tube. i have a peavey 15w (i know everyone has this for a first amp) and i like it but i just want something better. so go ahead and tell me if this is a good amp for my main amp. I wont be gigging with it, it will just be home use, so will it be too loud to get full tone out of it? If so any other amps out there that fit? Kinda want to to be tube.
#2
What genre do you play? If you play metal, a used Peavey 6505/5150 would be good, although a little out of your price range. If you play classic rock, a Peavey Valveking would be good, I believe, although I think that's out of your price range as well. $300 won't get you too much in the tube amp category, but if you save up more, I recommend those amps.
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#3
i play lots of stuff, i just play whatever sounds fun to play... so basicly nothing in general, although mostly higher gain stuff, and i do love to get some nice really high gain metal tons out of my amp, which is why i was looking into just getting a better version of the amp i have. ive seen valve kings go for around 300 but it doesnt have any on board effects does it? thats a big problem for me... not even delay or reverb?

here is a lot of amps i could get used (these are them new though)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Tube-Combo-Amps-Combo-Amps,300-500.gc
Last edited by Agent P at Sep 8, 2010,
#4
anyone? im going to a music shop tomorrow, want to know what amp to look at
#5
just try everything in your price range. thats what i do. the shop should be ok with it if your being serious and not just pissing around on their amps
#6
Quote by Agent P
anyone? im going to a music shop tomorrow, want to know what amp to look at


Depending on what your shop has...

The Vypyr tube sounds fine if you want a high gain amp with a bunch of effects.

I don't recommend the Peavey VK, whoever suggested it, as it requires a lot of modding and messing around with it just to dial in a good metal tone, if that is what you are after.

Lastly, you don't neeeeeed a tube amp, and for that price range, you won't find much, new or used.
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#8
that's not true, i think i've seen tubes go for around 300 used. are there any on the guitar center page link I posted that look good? and yeah i don't need a tube amp, I just want one that will play nearly all types of music and sound good doing it. at least sounding a lot better than my peavey 15w.
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that's not true, i think i've seen tubes go for around 300 used. are there any on the guitar center page link I posted that look good? and yeah i don't need a tube amp, I just want one that will play nearly all types of music and sound good doing it. at least sounding a lot better than my peavey 15w.


All of those amps listed are mostly low-mid gain amps. The only one I would really recommend for you, is the JCA20. However, it lacks versatility as it has only one channel. Also you wanted a ton of effects as well, correct?

Personally, I would say save up for a decent mid range tube amp, combo or stack, doesn't matter, and then get a floor processor if you want a ton of effects on the cheap side.
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#10
I don't need a lot of effects, I could keep my peavey and use it for messing with effects and such, but I really would need to have at least delay on the amp.
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I don't need a lot of effects, I could keep my peavey and use it for messing with effects and such, but I really would need to have at least delay on the amp.


No tube amp I know of, or any other amp for that matter, has just delay on it. There are plenty of amps out there with reverb built in...

Do you need to switch from cleans to dirties on a dime? If not, the JCA20 would be a great choice.
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#12
In my opinion, the Vypyr Tube is the best metal amp in that price range brand new, and it sounds better than the Valveking out of the box.
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#13
I have just read a thread about Valve Kings, i hear they sound pretty goof after upgrades. maybe i could do that? but maybe the vypyr would be better than that if i upgraded it... or i could also look into a blackstar ht combo, jet city jca combo, or ive even heard peavey 6505+ combos can go for around 400 used, i may consider that.... id just have to save more
the vypyr 60w is still possible though, just trying to see if i could get something better..
#15
hey i wont be buying a head, no money for the cab, and dont have a cab... so yeah. wow if i could find the bugera 333-212 used for around 400 heck it looks sweet. other than the there is the v55 if i dont want it as loud. oh and i cant be playing very loud, so how will a 120w tube amp play "quietly" lol.

and which would be better, peavey 6505+ combo, blackstar venue club HT-40, or bugera 333-212 combo... they look pretty compareable
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#16
Agent P -

I can help you a bit if you tell me what city you are in.

If you truely like the Vypyr 15 you have now you will love the Vypyr 60. It is $450 new as you probably know but your budget says $300.

What I'm gathering from you posts is that you only really play high gain metal and have no need for low gain or cleans. Is that correct?

Will you keep your Vypyr 15 no matter what?

Which GC are you going to specifically? Also, I've found it sometimes helps if you call the manager of the store first, like at 8:30 am before they even open and tell them what you want to do. They seem more receptive to helping out vs just you milling around all the amps like everyone else.
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#17
i will be going to the guitar center in GR, michigan. (its in kentwood county) its the closest to me but i dont get to go too often because of how far it is.

well, I play mostly high gain stuff, but i do need clean tones. i dont as much about them as high gain tones, but i really need to have them... even metallica has some soft parts to a lot of their songs ;P

i like the peavey, but i am very open to other amps that will provide me with better quality. and i will only sell the 15w peavey if i get an amp with tons of effects and stuff, so in other words, only if i get the tube vypyr 60w. otherwise i will keep it for simply messing around with effects, and because i can only get around $50 out of it. I may eventually sell it if i get an effects pedal/box of some sort (one with tons of stuff on it) used. that was i get all the effects and stuff with better tone.

i do plan buying used, and i will push my budget up to 400 if its worth it (like buying a 6505+ combo). 400 also means if its that much worth it, ill spend 300 on a nice plain tube amp (one that has really good tone and quality) with poorish gain, and use 100 for a used distortion/overdrive pedal. if that would sound better of course.
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#18
I'll poke around.

If you go the Vypyr 60 route you will need/want the Sanpera II pedal which is what $150 I think? So although that is what I would shoot for, you may not have enough budget so save up. Same with the 6505+ combo. Then you'd need pedals/MFX. Cleans are important because some amps that are in your budget are either single channel or low watts or both.

man....save up and be patient until that perfect amp hits you.
#19
stuff I see craigslist (no particular order most recent on down)

Peavey Valveking 112 $300 (needs some mods)(the guy who wrote the ad is on acid)
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1942705103.html

Randall RG50 $550 (talk down)
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1937031924.html

Peavey Classic 30 $250
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1929496791.html

Peavey Valveking head $300
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1928818890.html

Peavey Transtube 100 head $200 (you might really like this)
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1927902615.html

Peavey Ultra 100 head $400 (.....ooooh, do this)(oh crap you want combo sorry)
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1925652985.html

Traynor YCV40 $350 (maybe)
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1913510344.html

motivation
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1904438959.html

Ampeg Jet 12
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1899086088.html

Peavey XXL halfer $550
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/msg/1888406393.html


ok, some of those were over budget but you can always negotiate and or save up.


I didn't see much at your Guitar Center outside of Peavey Transtube for $150 and a Line 6 Vetta Combo for $599.
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#20
My co-guitarist has one and for high-gain it sounds brootal. The fact that it's not completely tube works in its favour for high-gain stuff. Really chunky gain with a hint of solid state technology that I actually like. Useable effects as well as an abundance of useable tones.

Try one out if you can, it's a great budget amp.
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mrxtreme 4 -- Yeah im guna try it out when i go to guitar center next.


311ZOSOVHJH --- what about bugeras? and also, at this time i do not care if the amp has to have pedals for effects, because in the long run it will sound better. So i can just wait on the pedals... but for now i really cant go over 400.. really 400 is pushing it.

oh and its not like i dont want a half stack, it just might be awkward when i have to play it really quiet, because i cant turn it up past 2 on my 15w is family is home lol...
oh and just a side note, i've only been playing for 8 months.

The valve king looks nice, but i dont think ill take it for more than $250 to leave some room for mods...

If I could steal the randall for 400 its looks really nice

The transtube looks like one that i could afford a cab to get with it... so ill check it

the ultra i would love to have, but its just too expensive.... :[

I think the randall looks most appealing here... and of course the 60w peavey vypyr
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#22
hey i have seen peavey vypyrs 60ws go for around 300, so I'm considering them more, but I still have to try some of these amps, especially the 6505+ combo and randall rg50
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#23
I'm confused. You can't turn your 15w vypyr past 2 and you want a 60 watt tube vypyr, Randall RG50 or 6505+ Combo. Where do you intend to use the amp, these amps are even louder than what you have now? I just can't help but wonder if you might be better off with something else.
#24
thats what im wondering too lol... im just figuring its hard to find an amp that is a large improvement of my vypyr 15w, for less than 50ws. I'm using it for home use, and eventually possibly gigging with it, but i would count on it.

so bottom line is:
an amp intended for home use, better than peavey vypyr 15w, and budget is under 400... possible? lol

ive seen these around before...

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Jet-City-Amplification-JCA2112RC-20W-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp-583601-i1475978.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Blackheart-BH15-112-Handsome-Devil-Series-15W-1x12-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp-104986625-i1400400.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Valve-Senior-20W-1x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp-620579-i1480750.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Bugera-V22-22W-1x12-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp-105460992-i1470775.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Blackstar-HT-5-Series-5W-1x10-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp-106087240-i1434794.gc

i could get one of those used, and they might be better for at home use, but i dont know how much better they will be than my vypyr 15w, with me being very novice in this...
Last edited by Agent P at Sep 10, 2010,
#25
The Vypyr tube 60 watt, the Randall and the 6505+ will all be an improvment if they have the sound you want but if you spend most of the time playing in a situation where others are trying to watch TV in another room then you may find the whole thing rather frustrating.
#26
well i will be playing in my basement, but people can hear me from upstairs so it will get them annoyed.. ha. so i think ill try all of the amps i posted above and the 6505, randal, and vypyr 60w
#27
I've always been really impressed with the Vypyr 60. For the price, you can't get anything better. Super versatile, great sounding amp with built in effects, and loud enough for pretty much any application.
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#28
the vypyr 60w is 300 used, so for 400 used could there be something different? like the randall rg50? I still want opinions on the amps I posted 2 posts above too.
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the vypyr 60w is 300 used, so for 400 used could there be something different? like the randall rg50? I still want opinions on the amps I posted 2 posts above too.

The only amp I would suggest out of those you listed, is the Jet City. I have the head and I LOVE that amp. However, it's only one channel, 20w, and not entirely versatile. It's capable of quite a few tones, but being that you can't switch them on the fly like the Vypyr 60, it's more of an advanced user's amp, someone who knows exactly what they want and knows that they won't be straying from that tone anytime soon.
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