#1
My friend has an Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus. We started dorming together now that college started so he left his amp at home. Right now, one of us plays bass while the other person plays guitar on my Peavey Vypyr.

Basically what we were wondering was, if he were to switch the pickups on his Epiphone to Gibson Pickups, would it make a significant difference in tone considering that the Vypyr is a modeling amp?

I know that on Line 6 Spiders, changing pickups pretty much does NOTHING for the tone. In fact, we coil tapped one of my buds PRS guitars, and it sounded exactly the same. Switched to a Strat, it added mids and had more hum. Thats it.

I know the Vypyr is miles ahead of the Line 6 Spider but it's still a modeler. Do pickup upgrades make a big difference in tone on Vypyrs? Wouid it be worth it?

Right now his tone seems a bit too thin and muddy when using high gain, and I've heard compressed Youtube videos with Gibsons that had better tone...so it seems like pickups might make a difference.

Thanks!
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Last edited by Ayses at Sep 12, 2010,
#2
I replaced my Epi SG400 pups with cheap Iron Gear Hot Slags. Huge difference. Iron gear are a great brand, and because your not paying for the name 'Gibson/Duncan' they come at a reasonable price, and for the pickups that you get, its awesome.
Changing stock Epi pups is a deffo must, they are incredibly muddy.
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#3
It will make a difference, it even makes a difference on spiders i used to own one lol, but its not going to make the amp sound any better or be a huge difference, i awlays tell people to build rigs around a good amp being it is the most important part of your tone, save the money for a good amp then save for everything else high end guitars, pickup changes whatever.
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#4
It will make a small difference, but basically it's not worth it to spend money on new pickups without an amp that will really let the differences in different pickups and guitars shine through.
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#5
^ So basically you're saying that unless we spring for a better amp than the Vypyr, it's not worth upgrading?
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#6
yeah with gear there are certain "priorities" for gear. I think its safe to safe an amp is a more important part of your tone than the guitar. Which vypyr do you have? I actually like my vypyr 15 and it doesn't sound muddy with my guitar and coil tapped it sounds great.
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#7
However, your guitar has nailbombs, the OP only has the stock pickups on an epiphone.

I suggest you look into some decent, but cheap pickups to replace the current ones, that should take away the muddiness from the stock sound.
#8
Yeah, that is true but It was still pretty good when I still had two EMG 81s in it, and those are actives going into a solid state. A pickup upgrade couldn't hurt. Make sure to research them thoroughly though. It's just my opinion but some passives sound really lame (obviously). Gibson Burstbucker Pro's are one of them. Try out guitars with different pickups if you can and get a feel for it. Of course it won't be the exact same when you put them into your guitar but it'll give you a general feel.

What kind of music do you play?
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#9
Quote by Ayses
^ So basically you're saying that unless we spring for a better amp than the Vypyr, it's not worth upgrading?


Basically, yeah.

But if that's not an option financially, GFS are a very good choice. I'm getting a pair soon.
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What kind of music do you play?
Nothing too heavy. Led Zeppelin, Tool, RHCP...wow...pretty much everything lighter than thrash metal.
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Basically, yeah.

But if that's not an option financially, GFS are a very good choice. I'm getting a pair soon.


Not really.

For practicing in a dorm, a Vyper is a good option. Swapping the pickups will make a difference, should be a fairly noticeable one too.
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#12
Quote by Ayses
Nothing too heavy. Led Zeppelin, Tool, RHCP...wow...pretty much everything lighter than thrash metal.


I have no idea what they sound like in person, but a lot of people like the Seymour Duncan Jazz and JB combo. Adam Jones supposedly uses a JB. I love those bands too, RHCP being one of my most listened to bands and I've been into Tool a lot more recently. AJ's tone is so good

I got BK Nailbombs and it suits my style and those bands fairly well but if I wanted to save a lot of money, I probably would've gotten the Jazz and JB.
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#13
+1 to GFS Pickups. Very attractive pricing and they sound great. I replaced my Epiphone G400 pickups with 2 Dream 90s (with the tuxedo pearl white and black trim) and love them.

I also replaced my Seymour Duncan JB in my old S-1 Blackjack with a GFS Vintage '59 and was much happier with the tone.
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