#1
Anyone know a good Diminished arpeggio with the root starting on the low e string? All of the ones i seem to make are really akward so i must be missing something here!

Thanks!
#3
do you mean a good sounding diminished arpeggio? Well voiced diminished arpeggio?? or just an easy one to put over some br00talz thrash track
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#4
If you don't want to adjust positions:
-----------------0-
---------------2---
-----------0-3-----
---------2---------
-----1-4-----------
-0-3---------------
If you don't mind adjusting positions a bit:
------------------(3-6)-
-----------------5------
-------------3-6--------
---------2-5------------
-----1-4----------------
-0-3--------------------
These are both written for two octaves (the second one has the notes in parentheses if you want to go further).
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#5
There are a few other than the one stringer I gave earlier...but you might want to clarify the term "diminished arpeggio", you mean a dim7 arp (E G Bb Db), correct? As opposed to a mb5 arp (E G Bb) I would think.


Emb5

E--x--
B--x--
G--3--
D--2--
A--1--
E--0--

Edim7

E--0--
B--2--
G--0--
D--2--
A--1--
E--0--
Last edited by MikeDodge at Sep 15, 2010,
#6
Quote by MikeDodge
There are a few other than the one stringer I gave earlier...but you might want to clarify the term "diminished arpeggio", you mean a dim7 arp (E G Bb D), correct? As opposed to a mb5 arp (E G Bb) I would think.


Emb5

E--x--
B--x--
G--3--
D--2--
A--1--
E--0--

Edim7

E--0--
B--3--
G--0--
D--0--
A--1--
E--0--


Or a fully diminished arpeggio (E G Bb Db)
#8
Quote by MikeDodge
There are a few other than the one stringer I gave earlier...but you might want to clarify the term "diminished arpeggio", you mean a dim7 arp (E G Bb Db), correct? As opposed to a mb5 arp (E G Bb) I would think.
Good point. For some reason I just assumed he meant diminished seventh, but he could mean the triad.
Only play what you hear. If you don’t hear anything, don’t play anything.
-Chick Corea
#9
Thanks for the replies.

I was referring to just the regular diminished triad (1+b3+b5), however I don't know a decent dim7 (1+b3+b5+bb7) arpeggio either... I was however referring to arpeggio shapes that I can sweep, with the root starting on the low E string.

Here's the dim7 shape I currently know:

Adim7 (root on A string)
E|------------------8-10-|
B|--------------10--------|
G|-------8-11------------|
D|----10-----------------|
A|-12--------------------|
E|------------------------|

Edim7 (root on A string)
E|------------------------------12--15-|
B|--------------------------14----------|
G|-----------------12-15---------------|
D|--------------11----------------------|
A|----------13--------------------------|
E|-12--15------------------------------|

This shapes are ok, but they're kind of awkward. Judging from everyone's suggestions, I guess all dim arpeggio shapes must be kind of awkward. I can convert the above shapes to just a regular diminished (below) but I still find them uncomfortable to play.

Adim (root on A string)
E|-------------8-10-|
B|---------10--------|
G|-------8------------|
D|----10-------------|
A|-12----------------|
E|--------------------|

Edim7 (root on A string)
E|--------------------------12--15-|
B|----------------------11----------|
G|-----------------12---------------|
D|--------------14------------------|
A|----------13----------------------|
E|-12--15--------------------------|

So what I was asking is if anyone knows any sweeping shapes for diminished and dim7 arpeggios, starting with the root on the A and E strings, that might be more "comfortable" than the ones listed above.

Sorry for the confusion, I probably should have been more specific!
#10
Dude, add you low to E to the arps/sweeps you've shown, it will add some separation to the closet sound a linear arpeggio can have. IOW, the basic sweep has every note contained in two octaves represented, but to reach beyond that in the same frame work expand the baisc sound, like...

E-----------------------------------6--
B----------------------------5--8-
G------------------------6-------
D-----------------5--8--------------
A--------------7---------------------
E---0--6--9---------------------------

By just throwing in the appropriate low string and skipping an Interval of the arp it creates a cool sound.

Actually, instead of getting wrapped up in the full arpeggio try this...


D-----------------5--8--5------------
A--------------7------------7---------
E---0--6--9-------------------9--6-- and repeat

Just a thought.

But diminished shapes are not awkward once you realize you don't have to play all 6 strings....check this out...instead of covering six string do the whole arp in one form and move it to create the next inversion...


   Fdim7             G#dim7            Bdim7                Ddim7                  Fdim7

E-----------------|-----------------|--------------------|----------------------|---------------------|
B-----------3--6--|--9--6-----------|-------------9--12--|--15--12--------------|--------------15--18-|
G--------4--------|--------7--------|---------10---------|----------13----------|----------16---------|
D--3--6-----------|-----------9--6--|--9--12-------------|--------------15--12--|--15--18-------------|
A-----------------|-----------------|--------------------|----------------------|---------------------|
E-----------------|-----------------|--------------------|----------------------|---------------------|




Then add a little technique to it ala Yngwie...



E--------------------------------------------------
B-----------6h9s12p9---------------------------12-etc...
G--------7------------10--------------------13---
D--6h9--------------------12p9s12h15-----
A----------------------------------
E----------------------------------



Now dig this with the scale found in this form...you can turn it into "ala Jimmy Herring"...

Take this chunk of an A H-W scale...play A7 then these ideas...


E--------------------------------5--6--8
B-----------------------5--7--8---------
G-------------5--6--8-------------------
D---5--7--8-----------------------------
A---------------------------------------
E---------------------------------------


Notice that the D and B string use the same fingering, and the G and E string use the same fingering. This makes it SUPER easy to incorpoate string skipping in your licks and in turn get that wider Interval sound that Jimmy's got going on...

A7 (A7alt, A13b9, etc...)

E-------------------------------5--6--8---
B-----------5--7--8----------------------
G----------------------5--6--8-----------
D--5--7--8-------------------------------
A----------------------------------------
E----------------------------------------

Or...reverse it...

E--8--6--5-------------------------------
B----------------------8--7--5-----------
G------------8--6--5---------------------
D-------------------------------8--7--5--
A----------------------------------------
E----------------------------------------

Or, chop it up and be more adventurous...like Jimmy...

E-----------------------------8--5--6----
B---------8--5--7------------------------
G----------------------5--6------------8
D--5--7------------8---------------------
A----------------------------------------
E----------------------------------------


Cool stuff!
#11
that's some really cool stuff. I also haven't used diminished scales that much, so it's probably about time i got into them a bit more