#1
So I've seen lots of topics on broken guitar headstocks and I wondered.


Hell, how do things like these happen ?


The head stocks break clean off.
Is this because you just "nudge" a wall with a headstock? Mostly( just from reading from around here) things like this happen due to string change and truss rod adjustment. I mean wth ? Ive seen guitars SMASHED to the ground on purpose and everything stayed intack except for new holes in the body,cosmetics,sh!t even the joint between body and neck stays together which you would image should detach first.. but THIS.....

Im led to believe that these headstock "failures" are just bad fabrication and error, just as rare as plane crashes, but... its NOT ?
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So I've seen lots of topics on broken guitar headstocks and I wondered.


Hell, how do things like these happen ?


The head stocks break clean off.
Is this because you just "nudge" a wall with a headstock? Mostly( just from reading from around here) things like this happen due to string change and truss rod adjustment. I mean wth ? Ive seen guitars SMASHED to the ground on purpose and everything stayed intack except for new holes in the body,cosmetics,sh!t even the joint between body and neck stays together which you would image should detach first.. but THIS.....

Im led to believe that these headstock "failures" are just bad fabrication and error, just as rare as plane crashes, but... its NOT ?



yes, your headstock can bey snaped.

ANYWAY: look at the gibson headstock (gibson is the prime example//any headstock thats bent back): if that fell on the floor, there would be a gap between the neck and the tip of the headstock. it woudl case a crack if it fell in a particular way, also, accidentally dropping somethign heavy on it/stepping on it.

sounds improbable, but it happens
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yes, your headstock can bey snaped.

ANYWAY: look at the gibson headstock (gibson is the prime example//any headstock thats bent back): if that fell on the floor, there would be a gap between the neck and the tip of the headstock. it woudl case a crack if it fell in a particular way, also, accidentally dropping somethign heavy on it/stepping on it.

sounds improbable, but it happens


i dont know how you could drop something heavy on it or step on it?

the only time my gibson les paul will ever fall is if my strap lock slips of my guitarstrap or if my case would fall out of its stand.

people should be more carefull with their stuff. a good guitar will cost at least 300-400 euros and someone ****in that up because they're not carefull enough should be bitten in the testicles.
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i dont know how you could drop something heavy on it or step on it?

the only time my gibson les paul will ever fall is if my strap lock slips of my guitarstrap or if my case would fall out of its stand.

people should be more carefull with their stuff. a good guitar will cost at least 300-400 euros and someone ****in that up because they're not carefull enough should be bitten in the testicles.

that's not really the point. I mean, shit happens no matter how careful you are. and yeah, gibson guitars are basically designed with a detachable headstock.
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#9
Whenever the guitar falls from being completely vertical to being horizontal, the part of the guitar receiving 100% of the blow is the headstock because it protrudes further back than any other part on the instrument. The entire rotational force of the guitar falling is focused on the headstock.


EDIT: Since the weakest part of the neck/headstock is the volute, that's where (if one exists) a break will occur. Or if the guitar is equipped with a locking nut it will break between the screws holding the nut in place.
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There's many many ways, it can be bumped around too much in shipping, it can fall over and crack, you can accidently smash it off a wall, the strap can come loose and make it dive bomb, there's lots of situations where that could happen and it doesn't help that it's the most fragile part of the guitar
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Headstock and neck damage cracks/breakage is pretty a common problem. I fix a boat load of necks and head stocks every year. I do not mind buying guitars with busted necks because i can fix them easily.

It all has to do with the grain of the wood in the neck. A lot of newer brand guitars are made with a scarf joint where the grain of the headstock can run straight in line with the angle of the headstock but they tend to break at the scarf joint instead. If you look at a Gibson neck grain it goes diagonally across the headstock so they tend to snap off usually right before the tuners at the heel and sometimes right thru the tuner holes.

http://www.jimfleetingguitars.com/2009/05/28/broken-headstocks-snapped-guitar-necks-and-my-solution/

See how the grain runs in the illustrations you can see where the weak spots are.

Older Gibson guitars were really prone to the head stocks breaking the main problem was the cases were too shallow and the top of the headstock rested on the bottom of the case rather than on the neck cradle so if the case fell flat on it's back the headstock would break in the case! The headstock and neck are the weakest points on a guitar the neck/body joint is usually pretty strong so the guitar will break at the week spots first.

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#12
Doesn't bother me to buy guitars with cracked necks either. I would be a bit iffy on broken off head stocks, unless I knew who fixed it. I can fix cracks myself, and have done it before.

My first Les Paul break happened when I was carrying my amp, chords and guitar. Had a normal strap, (no strap locks), and bent down. Headstock fell maybe 1/2 ft to 1 ft, and cracked the neck. Fixed it a couple years ago and it is fine.
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