#1
There's a problem growing on my pedalboard.

In order to switch from a clean sound to an overdrive sound, I have to turn off my compressor, turn off my chorus pedal, and turn on my overdrive pedal and the overdrive channel on my amp.

The reverse goes for the OD to a clean sound.

How can I simplify this so that I can press 1 button to turn on/off different pedals?
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midi or a custom switcher. i cant really think of any off the shelf unit that will let you switch between two pedal loops and control an amp channel relay. well, aside from a full midi setup anyway.
#5
pardon my thread jack but I had a quick question. I only have 2 pedals atm, planning on getting more, if I want that guitar straight to amp tone could I use a looper? I really like the tone I get guitar straight to amp, and I'd really like to get as close to that as I can with my pedals still connected. I'm also gonna switch to gold plated stuff soon to help this.
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http://www.tonebone.com/tb-loopbone.htm

and your Footswitch. Disengage Chorus/Compressor and go to O.D (i.e switch loops) then press the channel change on your amp. You will have minimal tone loss if you put the pedals near and do it quickly. If you have lots of money, get a custom midi setup. But I'm guessing you don't.


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pardon my thread jack but I had a quick question. I only have 2 pedals atm, planning on getting more, if I want that guitar straight to amp tone along could I use a looper?


yes, just take a jack and connect one loop without any pedals in.
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#7
I have this same problem except it's only with my OD pedal. I found a way to set it right below my amp footswitch so I can hit them both at the same time. I dunno what I'd do if I had multiple pedals.
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pardon my thread jack but I had a quick question. I only have 2 pedals atm, planning on getting more, if I want that guitar straight to amp tone along could I use a looper?


Well, no, because a looper will only lengthen your signal chain, resulting in tonal loss, unless you have a good buffer in there or buy a looper with a buffered bypass.
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Well, no, because a looper will only lengthen your signal chain, resulting in tonal loss, unless you have a good buffer in there or buy a looper with a buffered bypass.


I edited it a little but do you know the best way of achieving that pure straight to amp tone while stills running pedals?
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I edited it a little but do you know the best way of achieving that pure straight to amp tone while stills running pedals?


You'd need an a/b pedal and a two-way merger, with good quality parts, preferably point to point construction.

Guitar->A/B->......->Merger->Amp
...........->Pedals->


EDIT: Or only buy true bypass pedals. Or mod your existing pedals to true bypass.
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http://www.tonebone.com/tb-loopbone.htm

Although, to be fair, what I suggested before has a bypass which is in fact true bypass. So you'd probably be fine with the loopbone.

Oh, and to original TS: The loopbone has something called "Slingshot", which I'm pretty sure can be used to switch your amps channel as well, provided it supports the normal 1/4" jack kind of footswitch. Jof, might interest you.

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The Loopbone is equipped with three Slingshot control slide switches to achieve universality with most devices. The first switch assigns the ¼” jack to either the ring or tip for amplifiers that employ TRS style ¼” cables with their footswitches. The second switch lets you select either latching or non-latching (momentary) type switching for amps that employ an electronic pulse to switch channel or option (eg: reverb or tremolo) status.

The third switch makes the Loopbone particularly fun in that the Slingshot remote control function may be assigned to any one of the three footswitches. This could for instance allow you to send a channel change command to your amp at the same time you activate one of the FX loops or the boost switch. Add a Cabbone to your system and you could instantly switch speaker cabinets and really zero-in on the tone you are looking for. Best of all, you can make all of these devices switch at the same time with a with a single foot action.... and no tap dancing!
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EDIT: Or only buy true bypass pedals. Or mod your existing pedals to true bypass.
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I would not recommend this as it will cause significant signal degradation over long stretches. At least one good buffer pedal is OK, IMO. In fact, David Gilmour had this problem in the '80s (as well as noise problems) which is why he had switched to EMG single coils, but that's a whole other bag of tonal concerns.
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Oh, and to original TS: The loopbone has something called "Slingshot", which I'm pretty sure can be used to switch your amps channel as well, provided it supports the normal 1/4" jack kind of footswitch. Jof, might interest you.

id actually seen that before and forgot about it. ah well

it would interest me a lot more if i couldnt design something for myself that did essentially the same thing for a fraction of the cost. the radial stuff is great, but if you know exactly what you want its typically cheaper to make it yourself (provided you know what you are doing).
#13
It is most certainly possible to build your own looper switches. I built a very simple one with just one loop, and I'm about to make another that will have 2 loops and LED's to indicate when they're on.

There's a simple diagram for how to wire it, I believe it's in the Gear Building forum.
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This is probably a dumb question, but what if some of my pedals aren't connected directly to each other? For example, I have to turn my chorus pedal and compressor on for my clean sound, but my chorus pedal is in the effects loop and my compressor is in front of the amp. How do I solve that problem?
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This is probably a dumb question, but what if some of my pedals aren't connected directly to each other? For example, I have to turn my chorus pedal and compressor on for my clean sound, but my chorus pedal is in the effects loop and my compressor is in front of the amp. How do I solve that problem?


then you go back to Jof's original idea and get a MIDI switching unit like the GCX (except not the GCX, 'pops' like a mother****er).
something like that will let you (1) run fx both infront of your pre and in your loop, and (2) switch all of them on/off as programmed in your patches, and possibly (3) switch your amp's channel depending on the MIDI unit in question and your amp.

...and if your amp doesn't speak MIDI, look into RJM's stuff, or Bradshaw if you've got the cash, but I'm pretty sure it'd be considered a custom order if you go through CAE.

as far as the simple TBL's go, +1 to building your own shit, but also look into roadrage. their loopers were so cheap last time I looked it was worth the saved effort to just buy one of theirs (like $30 single TBL w/ LED, good jacks...).
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#16
Brian at loopmaster is great. He can build you exactly what you want. I just emailed him yesterday. I would suggest checking him out.

www.loop-master.com


EDIT: The Carl Martin octaswitch its alittle over $400. But with the DIP switches you can set 7 of the 8 banks to any assortment of your pedals. I say 7 out of 8 because there is no bypass so if you want to use no effects you need to set one of the loops up with no pedals. Check it out.
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Well, no, because a looper will only lengthen your signal chain, resulting in tonal loss, unless you have a good buffer in there or buy a looper with a buffered bypass.


dude you've said this before but you can get loopers that have a direct through from your guitar to the amp. It would only be adding one stage to your chain.
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i have the same issue......i looked at loop pedals and all that nonsense.....wayy too much money there. so i have sucked it up and settled for pressing 2 buttons rather than 5. check out the boss LS-2 or the old version boss PSM-5. i have the psm-5 and it works just fine. now all i have to do is hit the switch for cleans or hit it again for straight to amp and then when its drive time hit my drive channel. my od is usually on and i use an ernie ball volume to controll its output for cleans with chorus and stuff like that. look it up.
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