#1
I'm going to Amsterdam (among other places) with my Art History teacher and some other kids next summer. Since it's not the through the school, we're allowed to walk around by ourselves and all that and apparently when our teacher has done previous trips to Amsterdam, he's never really had an issue with kids using the coffee shops to smoke.

This waitress that I'm pretty tight with at my local bar has been to Amsterdam and she said she never got carded. Conversely, I've heard that they're cracking down on underage smoking (I even heard it got bumped up to 19 to smoke).

So, is it true that they're pretty strict on the whole underage weed smoking.

And secondly, what is the penalty for having a fake ID and carrying it internationally? Couldn't I just say it was a novelty item or something or is it worth it? I mean I'd probably just but the card in a book or something when I go through airport security.

EDIT: My age on my account isn't right. I'd be 17 by the time of the trip.
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#2
You know, those age laws are in place to actually keep you from smoking. They're not just some obstacle made to keep it exciting.
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not advocating this in any way but...you will be in amsterdam. it will not be hard for you to find marijuana at any age.
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You know, those age laws are in place to actually keep you from smoking. They're not just some obstacle made to keep it exciting.

They are obstacles, but they don't make it exciting. I would much rather prefer to be able to freely buy it, but that doesn't seem possible.
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You'r old enough to enter coffee shops in holland(if you'r account date is right), so don't go get arrested for having a fake ID.
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not advocating this in any way but...you will be in amsterdam. it will not be hard for you to find marijuana at any age.

I don't want to have to find a dealer in Amsterdam in like 4 days. I would prefer to be able to freely enter a shop, purchase the desired amount, smoke, and go wander that streets observing the art, architecture, and culture of the city.
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You know, those age laws are in place to actually keep you from smoking. They're not just some obstacle made to keep it exciting.


This.

That being said, weed is pretty easy to obtain stateside anyway, so why you would want to go to Amsterdam to smoke it is beyond me. Just enjoy the tourist aspect of the trip.
#9
You could sneak a fake ID just keep in deep in your wallet. If they found it, it is a felony. Taking it internationally, its probably worse.
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#10
actually,

just for facts:

you will need to be at least 18 and have a real ID to enter a shop nowadays.

(checked your profile: you are old enough to legally smoke pot in amsterdam)

but allways keep in mind smoking kills
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also, take into account amsterdam has the highest crime rate in the world


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#12
and in Amsterdam drinking alcohol is allowed at the age of 16
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EDIT: My age on my account isn't right. I'd be 17 by the time of the trip.

You know, you can edit the age in your profile instead of confusing everyone whenever you mention age in a thread.
#14
well, you can't enter a coffee shop at that age and certinately not with a fake ID.
they will scan your passport for flaws when entering the shop!

EDIT: Just enjoy the beer (try some belgian beers, the best in the world)
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I don't want to have to find a dealer in Amsterdam in like 4 days. I would prefer to be able to freely enter a shop, purchase the desired amount, smoke, and go wander that streets observing the art, architecture, and culture of the city.

Edit:

I want to smoke Weed & have sex with a Hooker in the Red Light District.



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actually,

just for facts:

you will need to be at least 18 and have a real ID to enter a shop nowadays.

(checked your profile: you are old enough to legally smoke pot in amsterdam)

but allways keep in mind smoking kills


Smoking weed doesn't kill you.

As far as I know, 18 is the age to be sold any weed at coffeeshops. Of course, some coffeeshops might not card you, just as some gas stations don't card you for cigarettes in the states. I think the better question to ask is which coffeeshops don't card you, so you have a better chance of getting weed without being carded.

I also wouldn't take the risk of bringing along a fake ID. Jail isn't too great.
#18
Don't bring the fake ID, its not worth the risk. I imagine it would be pretty hard to get caught but the penalties are severe if you do end up getting caught. Are there any of age students going on the trip that wouldn't mind buying it for you? Maybe tip them a little?
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Go when you're older.
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also, take into account amsterdam has the highest crime rate in the world


I guess its because everything around the world that is illegal, is legal in Amsterdam.
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ITT: silly people.

Amsterdam does not have the highest crime rate in the world by far. That said, the chances of getting caught aren't that high as long as you don't stand in front of a police station shouting "OH HEY GUYS, I'M UNDERAGE AND I'M SMOKING WEED!".

Also, for those who think it is; Amsterdam is NOT a country.
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#24
In my experience you WILL be IDed, if not on the door then definitely when buying.
Being caught with fake ID could be a serious crime over there, I'm not sure, HOWEVER the chances of them knowing every single type of ID from your country is very small. If they don't accept your ID then that's that, but that they could know it was fake is unlikely.
#25
Basically, I went to about 15 coffee shops on my 4 days over there. I got ID'd at 2, I think. If you get ID'd at one, do what you do at home for booze and just go somewhere else that will. There's like a million coffee shops bro, you'll be fine.

Oh and fake IDs are nowhere near as illegal here in Europe as they are in the states.

EDIT: Awful lotta people in here who haven't a clue what they're on about, or look a lot younger than I do. I used my driving license for ID the whole time, not my passport, Amsterdam is a very safe city and weed in Amsterdam is a beautiful experience and definitely something you should take advantage of if you can.
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#27
Fake ID's won't work, you have to be more convincing. Do you have any friends who could get it for you?

Oh, you can trust me, I am Dutch after all.


EDIT: I just read the rest of this thread.
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#28
Just move on if they don't serve you? That's all I used to do with pubs in my town, when you find one that will serve you just return to that one for more weed.

I know little about amsterdam, but surely it's not as hard as everyone is making out. Or you know, go when you're older.
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#29
I live in the Netherlands but i've only been there twice when i was 17. There are a few shops where they don't sell you anything, but the most will if you don't hang out there all day.
Just don't buy anything from some guy on the streets. Amsterdam isn't the safest place to be around.
Also, beer is legal and we have good beer so go enjoy some of that too
Oh and you don't have to bring a false ID for anything, just go somewhere else when they ID you
#30
don't listen to 90% of people in this thread. speaking from first hand experience, I got ID'd in an Amsterdam Coffee Shop, and I had a fake ID on me. It worked. Basically, it's exactly the same as going to a bar or pub or club anywhere in Europe if your below the drinking age. Some places will not ID, some will ID but accept anything and some places won't accept anything but a passport or driving license. Most places are more lenient with foreigners anyway, as their is an even smaller risk of them getting intro trouble for it, and they can always explain fake IDs away as being an international ID they didnt recognise but thought was legit. It works the same for weed in coffeeshops.

As for being caught with a fake ID, there is no reason you should be caught with one. If they don't accept your ID, they say "sorry, I can't accept that" and you leave the coffeeshop. I can't believe some people are actually concerned the police might arrest you, police aren't called out for something so trivial as trying to use a fake ID in Europe and if they did find it, they can't do anything either.

so basically, yeah try, if it doesn't work, move on. You could always get a friend to buy it and go smoke in a park.

EDIT: seriously, how does one get jailed for a fake ID?
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EDIT: seriously, how does one get jailed for a fake ID?

Some countries have crazy laws though, erring on the side of caution in foreign lands is not always a bad thing!

In Slovenia me and my friends got a big bollocking from a police lady for jaywalking on an empty street, which apparently can hold quite a large fine.
I'm not claiming that in the Netherlands having a fake ID is a arrestable offence, but if you don't know either way then be careful.


But yeah everything else you say I agree. If they ID you and don't like your ID, they won't accept it and you move on.