#1
Okay, so there's a way to tune a guitar like this

http://www.elixirstrings.com/tipsandtricks/how-to-string-electric-standard.html

and like this

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94025&stc=1


when I used my tremolo on my Squier Vintage Modified Stratocaster out of the factory, it went out of tune. (strung in the first way)

but when i restrung it in the second technique, it didn't anymore.

do you guys use the second way or the first?
would you mind trying?
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Last edited by rock0n247 at Sep 22, 2010,
#3
The second way works the best, but it only works for strings smaller than like .014 because it is too hard to do with anything thicker
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Last edited by sammo_boi at Sep 22, 2010,
#4
Quote by sammo_boi
The second way works the best, but it only works for strings smaller than like .014 because it is too hard to do with anything thicker


but ive done it on all strings
#6
Quote by rock0n247
but ive done it on all strings


You've managed to lock your E, A and D strings like this?
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#7
Quote by sammo_boi
You've managed to lock your E, A and D strings like this?


hey, its not easy, but worth it.

haven't you tried?
#8
I've tried. I use heavier gauge strings though. Do you use pliers or something to get them to bend properly?
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#9
Quote by sammo_boi
I've tried. I use heavier gauge strings though. Do you use pliers or something to get them to bend properly?



you first try to bend the string to about a 90 degree angle before putting it in so that it wouldn't be too hard to curve it

i dont use pliars cause they break the strings. i use my fingers.
#10
when you pull the thicker strings like they do in the 2nd one, leave the ends on the string then once you get a wrap, make sure to keep tension on the end near the tuner, if you don't pull them hard, it defeats the whole purpose of stringing the guitar in that way.
#11
I am literally about to restring my guitar if you guys want me to try?
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#12
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I am literally about to restring my guitar if you guys want me to try?


go.
#13
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You've managed to lock your E, A and D strings like this?


I've known people do bass strings like that
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#14
K i've done two strings (i know, only two...) but i think i've done it wrong :S
Ah well, i've got another four...
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#15
Ok i figure i should ask before i make a bigger idiot of myself.

I've done what that image is showing but i'm confused about where the string should wrap around the tuning peg relative to the hole you put the string through.
Does it go under the hole (closer to the head) or does it do above the hole (further from the head)?

I first had it going under the hole but i thought it might lock the string better if i had it going over. I then tried it the second way but it looks funny.
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#16
I have never had any tuning issues with either one of these method.
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#17
i use the elixers site.

but i also posted the other picture In the SET UP thread, because some guitars need the extra locking crossover for help.


either way should work unless your...

1. contact points are dry. (strings are snagging in nut cuts)
2. your bridge is not balanced.
3. you're over winding the strings.
4. or you have 6 wonky tuners.
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#18
Sorry that took forever. I ended up going above the hole and it's... well i don't know. It looks a bit suss but everything is in tune and nothing has flung off and hit me yet.
You guys have a look.

D string:




A string:




E string:




E string from another angle:

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#19
I just take the subway to the upper west side and have a luthier do it for me.

But seriously, the best way is to get Grover-style locking tuners and just do the whole thing in a couple minutes.
#20
why did you go above the hole?
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#21
you don't need fancy techniques to string a guitar

I usually just put the strings through the hole and start turning. As the strings tension rises it will automaticly form a 90 degree bent at the hole. That's how I usually do it with ALL my strings on ALL of my guitars. Also, I make sure that I wind up as few windings as humanly possible 'cause in my expirience it increases tuning stability. I've never expirienced any problems doing it that way. I guess everyone got their own way of stringing their guitar? ^^


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#22
well there are a couple of ways to skin a cat, but you always need a knife.

you can get away with a few different correct stringing techniques.
but stringing up WRONG causes tuning instability.
Jenneh

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#23
The way I do it (on non-Floyd equipped guitars) is to line all the tuner holes up with the neck, run the string through it, and leave around a 10-15cm gap between the string and the 12th fret, pulling the string up, then wind once over the top of the string going through the tuner, you should be wrapping the opposite way of a typical wind. Once you've wrapped once over, push the string down towards the headstock, and keep pressure on it so it wraps underneath the hole again.
This helps to lock the string, like the picture shown in the first post, but its easier to do (if you could understand my explanation Its pretty hard to explain)

One of the most important things for tuning stability is to get rid of all the slack in the strings; you need to stretch them properly. If there is slack in windings around the tuner, your guitar wont stay in tune.
#24
Quote by Jacoiskoby
Ok i figure i should ask before i make a bigger idiot of myself.

I've done what that image is showing but i'm confused about where the string should wrap around the tuning peg relative to the hole you put the string through.
Does it go under the hole (closer to the head) or does it do above the hole (further from the head)?

I first had it going under the hole but i thought it might lock the string better if i had it going over. I then tried it the second way but it looks funny.


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why did you go above the hole?


Because nobody answered me.
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#25
Quote by Jacoiskoby
Because nobody answered me.



what do you mean? i read your post and answered.

there's a tutorial in the setup thread and i said i use the elixer's site you linked.

i know in that site, it states that each wind is to go under the first.

if you had asked if you should wind up the tuner, i would have said no.


i really think, you have no one else to blame here.

now is this going to cause an issue?
perhaps.
especially as you tune up. the string is definitely less secure in that position.
Jenneh

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#26
I've got a Joe Walsh dvd and he shows you how he strings his guitars.
I've used his method ever since and you couldn't knock my guitars out of tune if you tried.
I highly recommend it to everyone.
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