#1
Hey guys, a few months ago I bought a Jackson DKMG Dinky off a friend for a ridiculously low price and had really high expectations for it. As soon as I plugged it in, I was instantly dissapointed. The tone was muddy and harsh. The highs sound like theyre coming from a neck pickup with the bridge enabled! No bite to them at all. I changed the battery for the EMG's and the strings, but they didnt make much difference. I even took it to my local guitar tech and he said all the electronics were fine.

The guitar has an 81/85 pup set in it. The guitar is made of alder, which I've been told is a brighter sounding wood, but putting this thing next to my Ec-1000 with an 81 in the bridge, the EC is brighter x10 even with older strings. And the Jackson is so muddy I can't even use it for rythm.
Anyone know if this is normal? This is the first jackson Ive ever played so Im not sure of the tone of them. But everyone who own's them seem to love them.
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#2
I haven't really got anything helpful to say, except that when I owned an alder guitar for a short period of time (LTD AL 600), it sounded waaaaay heavier.

I'm not sure if that is of any help at all. Sorry :/
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#3
Happened to my old Epi Dot, sounds like there's a wiring issue in your tone pot. Open 'er up, take a pic, post it here.
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#5
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Happened to my old Epi Dot, sounds like there's a wiring issue in your tone pot. Open 'er up, take a pic, post it here.


Will do, but it may have to wait until tomorrow. I would appreciate it if you stayed with the thread! Thanks guys
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#6
I'd say get some new higher quality pots, if you got it at a ridiculously low price, new pots + labor if you cant solder yourself will cost you maybe $50 max.
A lot of the time this will make a huge difference and give you a much better tone.
#7
I used to own a Jackson Dinky. It had the worst tone I've ever heard in any guitar. People tell me that their higher-end guitars are good, but their lower-end doesn't seem to be.
#8
yeah it really sounds like it would benifit from the pots being changed


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yeah it really sounds like it would benifit from the pots being changed


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#10
Quote by connorhxcchaos
I'd say get some new higher quality pots, if you got it at a ridiculously low price, new pots + labor if you cant solder yourself will cost you maybe $50 max.
A lot of the time this will make a huge difference and give you a much better tone.


The pickups are emg's, dont they come with the pots they need? Is it different with a factory install like the jacksons? And what kind of pots would I be looking for? Im no good with guitar electronics haha
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#11
Quote by connorhxcchaos
I'd say get some new higher quality pots, if you got it at a ridiculously low price, new pots + labor if you cant solder yourself will cost you maybe $50 max.
A lot of the time this will make a huge difference and give you a much better tone.


This, it's more than likely that the problem is faulty wiring than it is pots. Just my personal opinion, take it to a shop and get her looked at.
#12
Realistically, the EMG 81 in the Jackson should sound a lot brighter and thinner than in the EC-1000.

I'm gonna go with everyone and say its a wiring thing. Those don't sound like the original 25K pots if you're getting a muddy sound out of that guitar.
#13
I hate EMG's, but muddy is never a word I would use to describe them. You've got an issue quite apart from your guitar's tone-wood. Definitely get someone apt to check over your electronics.
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#14
1. Have the ground checked.

2. Have all soldered connections checked. (if any...if it is a newer setup with modular plugs, check those too!)

3. Check out the selector switch. Sometimes the switch itself can have loose contact points that muddy up tour sound.

4. Check the input jack contacts.

5. Take to qualified tech. No offense but if you are having issues with only that guitar, and your trusted techie says the electronics are fine... get a second opinion.
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#15
You really shouldn't be having those tone issues, so it's definitely related to your electronics. I've got a Jackson DXMG, and I love the tone. The cleans are sweet, and the distortion has nice heavy lows, and nice clear highs. I couldn't tell you what it is about your electronics, but that's definitely your problem.

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#16
Any chance of an audio clip so we can see exactly what you mean?
I think the pots used for EMGs are generally 25K but im not 100% sure for your jackson. If you get a pro to check it out they will tell you the exact ones youre looking for. I generally change my pots in the first few weeks of buying a used guitar, usually I'd use DiMarzios, they seem to hold up pretty well.
#17
My friend plays one, and they do sound beautiful, if the tech said your electronics are fine maybe it could be the neck?


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#18
Quote by Morbius77
1. Have the ground checked.

I probably wouldn't bother, it wont have one
Actives dont have ground wires, they're internally grounded.
Plus, even if they weren't, it wouldn't give a muddy sound like TS is describing, there would just be a lot of noise or very low output.
#19
It's definitely a wiring issue, probably your tone pot. My advice? get your guitar rewired with decent quality pots.
I'd never call an EMG 81 in alder muddy. 'Cause it isn't.
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#20
I would also check the wiring. Ii don't know too much about EMG electronics and wiring, but somethings obviously not right. After doing some mods to my Jackson, it sounds great.
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#21
Quote by the1967mustang
I would also check the wiring. Ii don't know too much about EMG electronics and wiring, but somethings obviously not right. After doing some mods to my Jackson, it sounds great.



Alright thanks for all the input you guys. The place where I take lessons does electrical work , guitar setup, etc. So I will tell them to specifically look at the wiring and pots.

Also, I will upload some clips if you guys just tell me how to do so, I've never done it before
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Schecter Hellraiser Solo 6
Jackson DKMG Dinky
Epiphone SG-400 Limited Edition w/ EMG 81/85

Madison Divinity w/ JJ Preamps
Peavey 6505
2 Custom Built Cabs w/ Celestion Vintage 30's
#22
Im thinking that there must be something wrong with joints or something n electronics .
#23
Said before, but check the tone pot definitely. Rotate the knob, see if it makes a difference in the sound. If not, the tone pot is probably shot. (That's what I think is the most plausible reason, from the description in the OP.)