Poll: (Please read before voting)Which guitar is more metal and better overall
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View poll results: (Please read before voting)Which guitar is more metal and better overall
ESP Viper standard
6 17%
ESP V2
30 83%
Voters: 36.
#1
Hey guys and specifically to all you metal heads I recently bought a esp viper standard for 1400 with these specs
VIPER
■Set-Thru Construction
■24.75” Scale
■Mahogany Body
■Mahogany Neck
■Ebony Fingerboard
■42mm Bone Nut
■Thin U Neck Contour
■24 XJ Frets
■Black Nickel Hardware
■Gotoh Magnum Lock Tuners
■Gotoh TOM Bridge & Tailpiece
■EMG 81 (B) / 85 (N) Active p.u.
■Finish: BLKS

But i feel the scale is to small for me and the tuning isnt so good but i found this v shaped esp v for 1500
V-II
■Neck-Thru-Body Construction
■25.5” Scale
■Mahogany Body
■Maple Neck
■Ebony Fingerboard
■42mm Bone Nut
■Thin U Neck Contour
■24 XJ Frets
■Black Nickel Hardware
■Gotoh Magnum Lock Tuners
■Gotoh TOM Bridge
■EMG 81 (B & N) p.u.
■Finish: BLK


im a metalhead but play jazz to. Im putting up a poll so you can vote and im also putting up links to the pictures
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#3
Call me crazy, but isn't the LTD Viper 400, 401, or 1000 almost an exact replica or the Standard Viper? Why not save yourself some money and get one of those.
As my one of my old guitar teachers used to say, "Metal really comes from classical music. The only difference is pinch harmonics, double bass, and lyrics about killing goats."
#4
personally i think the viper shape is ugly as hell, pretty much ruined the whole sg vibe for me. between the two the hardwear and pups are just about identical as youve undoubtedly noticed, so based purely on looks id take the v.
just a side note but since you play jazz you might look into something other than emg's, like more in the vein of Mustaines type of set up. but solely between these two, id take the v.
#5
Quote by Born A Fool
Call me crazy, but isn't the LTD Viper 400, 401, or 1000 almost an exact replica or the Standard Viper? Why not save yourself some money and get one of those.

yEA BUT DUDE TRUST ME ITS NOT THE SAME the standard comes with better crafting and feel and also no 2 are made alike
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#6
I myself like the LTD models that I've played, including the Viper 400. If my local guitar store carried them, I would buy one.
As my one of my old guitar teachers used to say, "Metal really comes from classical music. The only difference is pinch harmonics, double bass, and lyrics about killing goats."
#7
Quote by Born A Fool
I myself like the LTD models that I've played, including the Viper 400. If my local guitar store carried them, I would buy one.

ya ltd are good
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#8
personally i'd prefer the v for the longer scale and maple neck (all things being equal, should equate to a tighter tone under brootalz levels of gain), but I mean either should work pretty well, just go with whichever you prefer.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#9
^^^
Well said.
The only downside to the V that I can think of is playing it sitting down; gonna be mightily uncomfortable.
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#10
I'd get the V strictly based on the upper neck access. Who says you can't play jazz on a V? No one, that's who.

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#11
Truth be told, i got to play an ESP V-2 at a local music store by my play, and it was ****ing godly
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#12
I would personally go for the V, purely for the longer scale.
#13
Quote by Born A Fool
Call me crazy, but isn't the LTD Viper 400, 401, or 1000 almost an exact replica or the Standard Viper? Why not save yourself some money and get one of those.


Okay, you're crazy. I'm a Charvel/Jackson guy and even I know a LTD isn't in the same league as the ESP. geeez.
#14
Quote by Nimbus456
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Well said.
The only downside to the V that I can think of is playing it sitting down; gonna be mightily uncomfortable.


thanks.

And yeah, the viper is likely to be a bit comfier, so bear that in mind too.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#15
Quote by BobDetroit
Okay, you're crazy. I'm a Charvel/Jackson guy and even I know a LTD isn't in the same league as the ESP. geeez.


Was just basing that on an interview I read a while back where Kirk from Down was playing the LTD 400 because it was the same as the Esp Standard but cheaper.
As my one of my old guitar teachers used to say, "Metal really comes from classical music. The only difference is pinch harmonics, double bass, and lyrics about killing goats."
#16
Quote by Born A Fool
Was just basing that on an interview I read a while back where Kirk from Down was playing the LTD 400 because it was the same as the Esp Standard but cheaper.

I think that the specs are the same, but the ESP is going to have a better build quality, and be made of better slabs of the same kind of wood than the LTD.
#17
Quote by Dayn
I would personally go for the V, purely for the longer scale.


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#18
Go for the Viper, it has 2 different pu's much more versatile than a guitar with the same pu in both positions.
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#19
I'd go with the V. I love the shape, I like the longer scale, and I don't like the Viper.

As far as playing it down, it doesn't take a genius to make it comfortable. Anyone who truly believes they can't be comfortable either hasn't tried it or is an amputee.
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