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#1
Is there a pedal that you can use in conjuction with a tube amps overdrive to increase the overdrive, that would sound all syntheticy and crap
#2
I use a Boss SD-1 Overdrive pedal with all of my tube amps. Not sure if it's the sound you're looking for, but it's what I use and like.
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#4
an overdrive pedal
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#5
yes, it's called an overdrive. I've called them before to suggest a name change, but they won't listen to me. It's a very confusing name, after all. "B00000000000000000000000000000000st" would be much better.

EDIT: seriously, though, you have several different options:

overdrive will increase the amp's gain, but normally colours the tone a bit and adds a bit of its own dirt.

clean boost will increase the amp's gain- should be pretty transparent and not add its own clipping, but some do, and some colour the tone.

treble boost- never actually tried one of these ( ) but I assume it works in a similar way to a clean boost, except with a bit more emphasis on the higher frequencies.

you can use an eq like a clean boost too, or as a frequency specific boost.
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#6
Hey, thats awsum any one have any suggestions for a good overdrive pedal to work with a blues deluxe amp when your biggest influence is hendrix?
#7
check my edit, it's really up to you. hendrix used fuzz a lot too, that might be worth considering, though it's not really a boost as such.
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#8
Just get a Tubescreamer.

Safest bet.
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whats a tube screamer like? i really hate the synthetic sound of a distortion pedal, i dont want to get anything that will really compromise the intergrity of my amps natural feel id just love a bit more gain
#10
big mid hump, bit of a cut in the bass.
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big mid hump, bit of a cut in the bass.


...and a nice boost in tightness and gain!
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#12
an overdrive to boost your amp overdrive will make your amp into a ****ing monster of sound.
#13
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...and a nice boost in tightness and gain!


Yeah, but for playing Hendrix you don't want a tight tone.

TS, you'll want some kind of fuzz face clone to play Hendrix, what your budget?
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whats a tube screamer like? i really hate the synthetic sound of a distortion pedal, i dont want to get anything that will really compromise the intergrity of my amps natural feel id just love a bit more gain

What amp would that be?
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#15
Im rocking A blues deluxe 1955 reissue. Beautiful amp love it to death, dropped a thousand bucks the day i heard it. But I really would love to get some higher overdrive levels out of it without compromising the integreity of the amp, distortion pedals sound like shit with the overdrive channel. and to be honest i think distortion pedals sound synthetic and crappy anyways, i mean why did i spend that money on a tube to get the ace sound just to plug some crap pedal into it. I was considering using a blues driver pedal. Thoughts?
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Im rocking A blues deluxe 1955 reissue. Beautiful amp love it to death, dropped a thousand bucks the day i heard it. But I really would love to get some higher overdrive levels out of it without compromising the integreity of the amp, distortion pedals sound like shit with the overdrive channel. and to be honest i think distortion pedals sound synthetic and crappy anyways, i mean why did i spend that money on a tube to get the ace sound just to plug some crap pedal into it. I was considering using a blues driver pedal. Thoughts?


What distortion pedals have you heard/tried?
Good ones do exist you know.

Anyway, on topic, if you are really set on an overdrive pedal, I really like those:
MI audio Blue Pro
Barber Direct Drive
PaulC Timmy/Tim
HBE power screamer
Blackout Mantra
Fairfield Barbershop
Lovepedal Eternity
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Is there a pedal that you can use in conjuction with a tube amps overdrive to increase the overdrive, that would sound all syntheticy and crap

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whats a tube screamer like? i really hate the synthetic sound of a distortion pedal, i dont want to get anything that will really compromise the intergrity of my amps natural feel id just love a bit more gain

wut.
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What distortion pedals have you heard/tried?
Good ones do exist you know.

Anyway, on topic, if you are really set on an overdrive pedal, I really like those:
MI audio Blue Pro
Barber Direct Drive
PaulC Timmy/Tim
HBE power screamer
Blackout Mantra
Fairfield Barbershop
Lovepedal Eternity
Radial Texas Bones
T-rex Alberta


I tried the DS 1, Metalzone, and danny fabtone.

I think they all suck, but i hate the danny fabtone least. They just sound so synthetic to me. Not even remotely comparable to tube overdrive.
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wut.


I think he meant wouldn't
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I tried the DS 1, Metalzone, and danny fabtone.


-_-
You just named the 3 of the worst distortion pedals known to man...
#22
Here is what I want you to do:

Find a pedal that is green.
Make sure it has the word "screamer" on the box.
Make sure it has 3 knobs labeled Tone, Volume and Gain/Overdrive.
If you find a pedal with those specs, buy it.
Put in front of your wonderful tube amp.
Tweak to enjoyment.
Lather, Rinse, Repeat if needed.
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...and a nice boost in tightness and gain!


well, yeah. I mean the bass cut is what does the tightness thing. But yeah, I just assumed a boost in gain was a given.
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#24
Everyone is suggesting the ibanez tube screamer what do people think of the blues driver?
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Everyone is suggesting the ibanez tube screamer what do people think of the blues driver?

Boss's overdrive and distortions are pretty weak, but that is one of the better ones in my opinion. I've heard it used with Fenders with some success... But I think a TS would be better. Boosting the clean channel of your HRD with a nice TS or clone should sound godly. Take your amp to a shop and try a few out with it if you really want reliable answers.
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well, yeah. I mean the bass cut is what does the tightness thing. But yeah, I just assumed a boost in gain was a given.


Well, the TS described an overdrive pedal, and then asked what kind of pedal could do that...so I figured its best to explain everything very...VERY clearly.
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Ya know...if you REALLY want it to sound natural, you could just overdrive your amp naturally. With a volume knob.
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Everyone is suggesting the ibanez tube screamer what do people think of the blues driver?

Awesome booster. It's a lot more transparent than a tubescreamer. It's rather bright, though, so it works wonders for darker sounding amps. But if you're using something like a Fender or a Peavey, it might get a tad icepicky.
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Awesome booster. It's a lot more transparent than a tubescreamer. It's rather bright, though, so it works wonders for darker sounding amps. But if you're using something like a Fender or a Peavey, it might get a tad icepicky.


It depends what Fender, not all Fenders are superbright, in fact, I always though vox amps were super bright and Fender were darker
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It depends what Fender, not all Fenders are superbright, in fact, I always though vox amps were super bright and Fender were darker

I'm talking about the black/silverfaces. the BD2 is awesome with tweed type amps with the tone rolled back.
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Everyone is suggesting the ibanez tube screamer what do people think of the blues driver?


My BD-2 is my favorite pedal that i own... I use it all the time. Very neutral, doesn't have quite the mid-boost that the tubescreamer does... probably a little too much gain available for a overdrive pedal, so i'd keep the gain below 12 o'clock...
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#32
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I tried the DS 1, Metalzone, and danny fabtone.

I think they all suck, but i hate the danny fabtone least. They just sound so synthetic to me. Not even remotely comparable to tube overdrive.


Way to ignore the awesome list.

What amp do you have? It's going to be preettyy important to the sound. Sguit was right, if you want a Hendrix-esque tone then you'll need a Fuzz Face of sorts. Infact +1 to everything Sguit said.
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#33
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Ya know...if you REALLY want it to sound natural, you could just overdrive your amp naturally. With a volume knob.

I would love to do that but my land lord lives above me and the ceiling is far from sound proof
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Every overdrive pedal I test out seems to work very well with the drive/gain at 11 o'clock and the volume at 1 o'clock into a tone that is on the edge of breakup/very slightly breaking up. If you would like to run an overdrive pedal into an already overdrive amp sound, I think the pedal sounds better with the gain lower and the volume higher. Tubescreamers work well in a variety of amps, but you might not appreciate the mid-hump. To be clear, you want to run this into an already overdrive tube amp? You can try any of the tubescreamer variants (ts9, ts808, maxon, etc.), but you might favor something more transparent. Maybe something by Fulltone or some of the Xotic pedals.
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Way to ignore the awesome list.

What amp do you have? It's going to be preettyy important to the sound. Sguit was right, if you want a Hendrix-esque tone then you'll need a Fuzz Face of sorts. Infact +1 to everything Sguit said.

I have a Fender Blues deluxe 1955 reissue and i am ignoring the list of distortion pedals because i dont want a distortion pedal to change my zsound i only want more gain on the sound i allready have.
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Every overdrive pedal I test out seems to work very well with the drive/gain at 11 o'clock and the volume at 1 o'clock into a tone that is on the edge of breakup/very slightly breaking up. If you would like to run an overdrive pedal into an already overdrive amp sound, I think the pedal sounds better with the gain lower and the volume higher. Tubescreamers work well in a variety of amps, but you might not appreciate the mid-hump. To be clear, you want to run this into an already overdrive tube amp? You can try any of the tubescreamer variants (ts9, ts808, maxon, etc.), but you might favor something more transparent. Maybe something by Fulltone or some of the Xotic pedals.


Thats exactly what I want. Ok this may seem like a dumb question guys. But is a Blues Driver what one might refer to as a boost pedal?
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Quote by Natekicksbut
I tried the DS 1, Metalzone, and danny fabtone.

I think they all suck, but i hate the danny fabtone least. They just sound so synthetic to me. Not even remotely comparable to tube overdrive.


Well, none of those distortion pedals are really meant to play bluesy stuff and Hendrix anyway. In order you have listed a grungy and nasty distortion, a nasally metal distortion, and a cheap pukebox of a pedal. There are some good distortion pedals by Lovepedal, Wampler, Blackstar, Xotic, etc.. I also second the comments on fuzz. Hendrix used fuzz a lot.

The BD-2 is an overdrive. It has less mids than the tubescreamer so it's a bit more transparent, but it also is a bit brighter. It retains the bass a bit better too, even though it is a tad bright. It also has more gain than a tubescreamer.
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#38
Nope, it's an overdrive pedal. It can be used as a boost but really it's an overdrive.
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#39
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I would love to do that but my land lord lives above me and the ceiling is far from sound proof

I agree with the Fuzz Face suggestion then, it'll get dirty, Hendrix-y, and not too loud. Worry about an OD when you have the space to really use it to it's full potential.
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#40
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I have a Fender Blues deluxe 1955 reissue and i am ignoring the list of distortion pedals because i dont want a distortion pedal to change my zsound i only want more gain on the sound i allready have.




You won't get that unless you turn the amp up loud, which you already said is not an option. When using a boost of some sort, or an overdrive pedal that is set up as a boost, the volume of your amp will increase. No, you won't be able to get your amp to distort on it's own at whisper-volumes.

Judging from what you've said so far, a fuzz pedal should work for you. If you can, get both a fuzz-face (or clone thereof) and an overdrive for some variety.
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