#1
I know this is going to erupt into it, but I figure just in case I'll ask this not to turn into an "Are guns bad/Is the second amendment good or bad?". I'm not looking for your opinion on guns and the amendment, I'm not looking for your opinion on my opinion, and I'm not asking if you think people having the right to ban firearms on their property would be a good or bad idea. I just want an answer to something I'm curious about.

Basically, can people, businesses, venues, etc. ban guns and other firearms on property they own? I'm pretty sure that Freedom Of Speech isn't fully valid on private property(Hence why some stores will throw you out for cussing out an infant), but I'm curious as to whether this holds true for the second amendment as well as the first?
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Well it's a simple case of "my house my rules". But "my house my rules" doesn't equal national law.
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im not sure if they can but i propose that they should have that right.
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Basically, can people, businesses, venues, etc. ban guns and other firearms on property they own?

Uh..... yes?

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To answer: I don't think they can ban guns per se; But if you were to have a gun, they could just barre you from being on their property.


But realistically it would depend on the laws.
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I believe so. I've noticed a lot of no weapons/firearms signs at bigger stores like Wal-Mart and Target. Plus, I think you have to get a special permit to even be able to (lawfully) carry a gun on your person in public.
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How many times do I have to say this? The Constitution only protects you from the government. Amendments are not laws, they're restrictions on laws.
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Sure, you cuould resrict guns, but i'd like to see you try to take the persons gun away
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Of course they can. Most of the amendments to the constitution are only applicable to the government itself. A private institution can fire you for saying something against their policy; did you think it was illegal for a concert venue to search every single person that walks through their doors?

So yes, it is well within the right of an individual to prohibit guns being brought onto their property.

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Of course they can. The beautiful thing about private property is you set the rules. When Ohio passed the CCW law, a lot of businesses put up "no gun" signs in there window. However, a lot of places including our mall, several banks, will allow you to carry.
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Oh, and open carry is legal Ohio also. No permit required as long the gun is visible. You can only conceal it, and drive with it on you if you have your permit.
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#15
If I own a house or business, I would like the right to say that people can't bring that shit on my property.
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Well it's a simple case of "my house my rules". But "my house my rules" doesn't equal national law.


If your in someone's house with a gun you don't really have to follow the rules
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If I own a house or business, I would like the right to say that people can't bring that shit on my property.



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But nothing stops you from keeping a shotgun under your counter either. The "no guns in my store" rules are just as much to keep someone from freaking out if they see the guy in the back is concealing a pistol (or so it seems to me) as they are to deter crime, which, as you say, they aren't really all that effective against.
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Well what kind of 'private' property would you find it acceptable in?

Cause if someone walks into a business with it, they most likely are there to shoot somebody
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But nothing stops you from keeping a shotgun under your counter either. The "no guns in my store" rules are just as much to keep someone from freaking out if they see the guy in the back is concealing a pistol (or so it seems to me) as they are to deter crime, which, as you say, they aren't really all that effective against.


The signs only affect law abiding citizens. I've open carried several times without people freaking out. You get looks, but why would someone freak out?
#21
In the state of florida any home owner, or business owner have the right to refuse anyone onto their property if the person is carrying a weapon of any kind. this does not include law enforcement or military personnel.
#22
Since when does anybody really own any property, last time I checked, everyone still pays property taxes, which if you don't pay, the government takes your land.

Businesses are allowed to prohibit guns on their property, and so are individuals of property, ever see the sign "No Trespassing, Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again".

Only thing the government can't do is ban you from owning a firearm of any kind, according to the constitution. Doesn't say private businesses can't prohibit them on their property.