#1
Ok, here's the deal:

I'm looking to buy a new ("metal") guitar (mid high range £750 budget), and I want it to be a fixed bridge guitar. Problem is, 98% of the fixed bridge guitars I have played or researched have one of these "stoptail" bridges:



And I hate playing on those bridges as I think they are not very comfortable at all, especially for metal. I prefer the style of floyd rose bridges, but the problem is I want a fixed bridge for my next guitar.
The current guitar I have is also a fixed bridge (Ibanez), however it has an extremely comfortable "Gibraltar" bridge. This is like a floyd rose bridge except it's fixed:





Only Ibanez seem to make these. Do you guys know of any other fixed bridge metal guitars for me that have these sort of low profile, non-stoptail bridges?

thanks.
#2
Try a string thru body tune a matic. Or Fender, Fender does make a fixed bridge like that. I know both the Jim root guitars have them and a few other fender models with humbuckers.

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#4
Yeah, I was going to point out the Jim Root models.

What about string-thru stoptails? They're like the ones you posted, only they don't have the metal piece the strings go into. I don't imagine they'd work either, but we're not sure which part you find uncomfortable.

Also, what about getting something with a lo-pro Floyd Rose and blocking it?
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#5
Do you mind about shape? if not the RR5 is probably a good guitar, no stoptail.


You've also got the DKMGT which is archtop superstrat again without the stoptail.


Just some recommendations, definitely worth looking around in your local music store and asking for some recommendations there. (As long as it's not GC.)

Not really familiar with the Gibraltar bridges, so I can't help there, sorry.
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a lot of brands do string thru, no stoptail. if thats what you like.
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i haven't tried them (so this is obviously not a recommendation), but sovereign maybe?
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#8
Well, the part I find uncomfortable is actually the bridge part, not where the strings go into a metal thing or go through the body, so either way a string thru or stoptail are uncomfortable (maybe I'm playing the guitar wrong?).
I prefer the flatter and broader surfaces of floyd rose like bridges, or the gibraltar example I posted in OP.
#9
ahh,


low profile bridge. "Tight end"
http://www.ibanez.com/ElectricGuitars/model-RG1421F
or examples.
http://www.ibanez.com/ElectricGuitars/model-FR1620


or back to the RGA series wt gibraltar.

http://www.ibanez.com/ElectricGuitars/Series-rga

or even a fixed bridge Fender, pimped out to be more metal.
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#11
as i said, I think sovereign does one with a bridge like that, it's a gotoh i think. Most of the hardware companies make a bridge along those lines (kinda like a hardtail strat type thing), but it's finding a guitar which comes with it stock, and at your pricerange, which is the problem.
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#12
some other options you have are:

Schecter PT and PT Fastback
Godin Redline 1 and 2 or if you can find the older Godin Freeway EMG models. (I highly recommend Godin guitars, they are great for the price!)


EDIT: Of course Ibanez is probably your best bet for Metal guitars with that style of bridge. Although its not being produced this year, the Ibanez RGT fixed bridge models (one had emg's the other had passives) could probably be found in stock in some stores or on the used market.
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Also, what about getting something with a lo-pro Floyd Rose and blocking it?


I concur. Seems like the simplest solution to me.
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I concur. Seems like the simplest solution to me.


The whole point is that I want to be able to change tunings frequently. Will that be possible with a blocked floyd rose?

EDIT: Those Godin guitars seem really good, but it might be tough finding some to try out.
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The whole point is that I want to be able to change tunings frequently. Will that be possible with a blocked floyd rose?



Absolutely. It will act like a fixed bridge in that regard. And on top of that, you get the locking nut and you can still use the bar to go down, just not up.
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What's the advantage of getting a locking nut?

Also how will I block it in a way so it acts as a fixed bridge so I can change tunings? Tremol-no?
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Fender JR Strat or Tele

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#18
A locking nut, along with the strings being locked at the bridge gives tuning stability. Of course, if you want to change tunings, you will have to get an allen wrench and unlock the nut. But you can keep it unlocked if you really want to.

As far as the tremol-no, it should work. I've never used one, so I can't give an opinion, but that IS what its for. But more simply, any ol' block of wood under the bridge will effectively "block" it.
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So if I bought a floyd rose guitar, then somehow locked the bridge so it didn't move up or down (or moved just down) I would get the tuning stability of a fixed bridge and also the playing comfort of a floyd rose bridge. And the only way to lock it at the strings is to use a tremol-no?

Also I guess I could keep the locking nut on.
#20
You got the gist of it. Except Floyds are generally regarded as having more tuning stability than fixed bridges because of the locks at the bridge and the nut.

As for the tremol-no, I suppose that would be the "professional" way to do it. But I personally would measure and paint a block of wood to stick between the Floyd and the guitar. Same effect, but pretty much free.
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#24
Okay, so getting a guitar with a floyd and blocking it sounds like a good plan, or buying another ibanez. Those godins are an option too.
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Okay, so getting a guitar with a floyd and blocking it sounds like a good plan, or buying another ibanez. Those godins are an option too.


I'd try the Godin's first and the regular fixed bridge guitars before you resort to blocking a floyd. For me that would just be more of a pain than anything, but that's my opinion and it may not be a big deal for you.