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#41
Originally posted by bean-o
Anyone else notice that as soon as they lost Izzy, the band went downhill... Ive heard some of the Chinese Democracy stuff, its not to bad. But it aint the same, to many sound effects and keyboard stuff.

Yes. Izzy makes GnR.
#42
Originally posted by bean-o
Anyone else notice that as soon as they lost Izzy, the band went downhill... Ive heard some of the Chinese Democracy stuff, its not to bad. But it aint the same, to many sound effects and keyboard stuff.


I read somewhere Steven Adler was influential in writing songs too, its too bad they fired him.
Anyways, Axl should just start a new band. G'n'R had their heyday but Axl ruined by getting a hugeass ego.
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#43
Originally posted by bean-o
Anyone else notice that as soon as they lost Izzy, the band went downhill... Ive heard some of the Chinese Democracy stuff, its not to bad. But it aint the same, to many sound effects and keyboard stuff.

How have you been able to hear it?
#44
GNR was great becuase of all of them- not just slash, not just axl made the band, the band made the band. Take any of them out and its just not the same.

I dont know EXACTLY what Slash uses but in simple terms: A les Paul, marshall amp/speakers, overdrive of some sort and wahh basically. He also likes to use that tube thing- i dont know what it is called but he uses it on 'anything goes' and it sounds tight- switching from just the guitar to a mix of both and then back again.

Does anyone know what this device is called??
Its like a tube alongside a mic and you like 'breathe' into it to make synth-like sounds- its kinda hard to describe but does anyone get what i mean and know what it is called??
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#46
Originally posted by sir_john
his signature les paul has only recently of come out, so how can he of used it on appetite?
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#48
i think chinese democracy will be ok, but in no way do i see it topping older GN'R. even velvet revolver may do better than chinese democracy.
i will probably end up buying just because i want to see what they came up with after a decade.

and i dont know if anyone else noticed, but on another site someone made a comment that i found amusing.....it was that if chinese democracy is released in 2005, then it would be 14 years since guns n roses made a real album (spaghetti incident doesnt count cause izzy was gone already).....and we will see if the quote from the song 14 years "dont get back 14 years, in just one day" will come true or not......just an amusing little anecdote there
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#49
Originally posted by Metalology
An artist can have there own signature guitar before it is available to the market


Not 20 years before

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#52
is there a song that Izzy Stradlin leads or solos in? or is it always Slash?
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#53
^ i think in estranged izzy does a few of the fill ins/solo, as in the uyiII booklet it says they both do rhthym and lead, though i am unsure of who does which part. all it says is

slash - lead and rythym guitars
izzy - rythym and lead guitars

besides that from what i remember or know its all slash
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#54
they should have included estranged in the greatests hits cuz i would have bought it if they did
#55
^ ya thats one of the main reasons i didnt buy it....it just seems incomplete without it
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#56
Originally posted by bean-o
is there a song that Izzy Stradlin leads or solos in? or is it always Slash?


I think he may have been the lead on "Pretty Tied Up", as he wrote the song and I remember seeing it.
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#57
The only song with duff singing is Attitude , its so easy is axl and all the other songs are axl , axl is just like 1 of the best singers ever so he has such a big range
#58
COME ON PEOPLE TALK!!! hmmm new subject.... who would you say was the ugliest gunner? (i rated in a completely non-homosexual way) I would say Slash and Axl tie for worst looking(no offense to Slash) then Steven Adler then Matt, then Duff and Izzy tie for least ugly. Im not saying they look bad...cus they look SOOOOO cool.
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#59
would you want to go see guns nowadays? even though they dont have most of the original members
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#61
Originally posted by masterbasser89
would you want to go see guns nowadays? even though they dont have most of the original members

Izzy left. There is no more GnR.
#63
Originally posted by bean-o
Anyone else notice that as soon as they lost Izzy, the band went downhill... Ive heard some of the Chinese Democracy stuff, its not to bad. But it aint the same, to many sound effects and keyboard stuff.


The band started going downhill after they fired Steven, that's when Axl's dominance of the band was apparently cemented. Izzy said in an interview after leaving the band that the songs sounded terrible without Steve, and that he made a big musical difference. I think the full interview is available at heretodaygonetohell.com.
It doesn't even have to be new, I'd take an old one, even from like 1959 or something...
#64
Originally posted by bean-o
is there a song that Izzy Stradlin leads or solos in? or is it always Slash?

The only song i know of with a moment when izzy plays lead and slash plays rhythm is Nightrain, Izzy plays for about 20 seconds to start off the solo, then Slash takes over for the rest of the song Izzy doesnt seem that interested in lead, he is a Keith Richards worshipper. It seems thats why they worked well together in the band, at least at first.

Anyways people keep asking about Slash's setup, here's what I know:

Guitars:
Gibson Les Pauls (mostly sunburst Standards and Standard Plus's, mostly with 50's necks i believe)
Guild Doubleneck
BC Rich Mockingbird (mainly for "You Could Be Mine")
Gibson SG Doubleneck
Travis Bean guitar for slide playing (as on Bad Obsession)

Amplifiers:
He originally used a limited-production Marshall 2555 Jubilee amp, after GNR became superstars Marshall brought the amp back into production in the form of the JCM Slash signature amp, Marshall's first-ever signature amp. He has used that amp exclusively ever since, with Marshall cabinets.

Effects:
Dunlop DCR-1SR Rackmount Wah
Dunlop Heil Talkbox
not much else
Equalizer for lead boost etc

Izzy played a Les Paul standard and other Gibson classic instruments (ES 135 especially), and Duff plays Fender basses through Gallien-Krueger amps
It doesn't even have to be new, I'd take an old one, even from like 1959 or something...
#65
Why is everyone like "Izzy WAS G'NR"...?
I dont think you guys are giving Gilby Clarke enough credit. come on....

with that being said, Slash, Duff, and Izzy had such a chemistry between them..something you can't replace. They worked incredibly well together and they aren't the same without each other...
I once heard someone talk about how GnR was such a good band because the sum of their parts was greater than they ever could be individually, and I think to an extent, that is true.

I'm looking forward to Chinese Democracy, cause it HAS to be a good album. Velvet Revolver's "Contraband" was a decent record, and there were parts I liked more than others.
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#66
^^The thing about the sum of the parts is very true. Izzy Stradlin likely wrote the majority of GNRs music while he was in the band, as well as many lyrics and some entire songs. Overall he was probably a much more competent musican than Slash, although much less of a virtuoso. He has continued to release rock albums since GNR, although he does not seem interested in becoming mainstream. Gilby Clarke, on hte other hand, was a hired musican, and soon after the UYI, a fired musician. If you look on jacket of the Live Era CD, it lists the AFD lineup plus Gilby and then says "additional musicians Gilby Clarke and Matt Sorum"
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It doesn't even have to be new, I'd take an old one, even from like 1959 or something...
#67
Izzy is by far my favorite rhythum guiatrist of all time, but he wasnt more important to GnR than Axl.
#68
Originally posted by vaishredder
The only song with duff singing is Attitude , its so easy is axl and all the other songs are axl , axl is just like 1 of the best singers ever so he has such a big range


Ahem, there is one called "So Fine" that Duff sang. So anyways, has anyone seen their Use Your Illusion DVDs? And if so, why are their backup female singers such hags?
Originally posted by suicidesnowMMen
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#69
I have seen Use Your Illusion 2 ( i think) its the one with SCOM and Paridise City. It was a pretty good Dvd. Its up there with hullabaloo and live at slane in my dvd ranking. Axl keeps doing cotsume changes and wears some pretty horrible hot pants which show things.....*shudder* the band is excatic, running alover stage.
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#70
If the time is GMT, how come it is so inaccurate? its 5 45 here for goodness sake
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#73
^ His mother was black (probably Christian), his father was white (probably Jewish). Musicians are hardly ever very religious though, Slash himself is probably indifferent on this topic
It doesn't even have to be new, I'd take an old one, even from like 1959 or something...
#74
Originally posted by mid46531
^ His mother was black (probably Christian), his father was white (probably Jewish). Musicians are hardly ever very religious though, Slash himself is probably indifferent on this topic


If musicians are harldy even religious, what are the guys in christian bands? duh.....
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#75
Am i the only one here who listens to November Rain every single night?
overated- Kirk Hammet, Slash, Angus Young, all nu metal guitarists
underated- Malcolm Young, Izzy, John 5, Tony Iommi, Jake E. Lee, Justin and Dan Hawkins The Edge, Joe Perry
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#76
oh and who agrees with me that Welcome to the Jungle has the best intro ever
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#77
Ive been listenin to November Rain recently, cos of the class outro, and welcome to the jungle does have an amazin into. Possibly the best ever. Does anyone know where to get full tabs for "Out Ta Get Me" ?
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#78
Originally posted by EarthAD
oh and who agrees with me that Welcome to the Jungle has the best intro ever


Certainly not the best, but pretty good anyways. Guns n' Roses are one of my favourite bands, but to be fair and open-minded, there are alot of better intros.
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#79
there are many better intros than wttj, sweet child and rocket queen are two from the same album i'd consider better. I personally think Rocket Queen is the best song on the album, but im sure there would be much argument over which track is best on such an epic album........
It doesn't even have to be new, I'd take an old one, even from like 1959 or something...
#80
Originally posted by EarthAD
Am i the only one here who listens to November Rain every single night?


I listen to Estranged quite often...

http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=song,1942
That's a full PowerTab for Out Ta Get Me...

Also, I like Paradise City's intro more than Welcome to the Jungle's off Appetite. But even more so...I like the intros to Breakdown and November Rain.
Originally posted by suicidesnowMMen
i am nto even gonna bother cause all of u are 2 dumb...asked would u rather be fat or skinny not, would u want to be fat or skinny"