Poll: "The Earth Is Dying" - an exaggeration?
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View poll results: "The Earth Is Dying" - an exaggeration?
True and accurate. Our planet is hanging on for dear life.
12 6%
True but exaggerated. Earth may be critical in a few centuries.
67 35%
Far from the truth. Earth has been this way for thousands of years.
32 17%
Pure BS. Earth will survive. We won't.
79 42%
Voters: 190.
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#1
EDIT: "Dying" of course referring to the biosphere and the planet's resources being abused to the point that it would uninhabitable and not be able to sustain life.

We've all heard it: We exploit our natural resources too much without giving back. Global Warming. Pollution everywhere. Illegal logging. Nature being torn down in place of industry and technology. A sample blurb:
Our planet is dying and this is no mere rendezvous with a date on a Mayan calendar in 2012. It’s the mass termination of life on planet Earth. Nature is under a scientific directive. It is irreversible. It is the extinction protocol. In 2010, the planet was ravaged by the worst flooding seen in 1000 years, Pakistan, Colombia, and Australia. Profound earth-changes have already devastated the planet and even more catastrophic change is yet to come. We are entering a period of extreme volcanism. Chaitén (Chile) erupted after being dormant for 9500 years, Eyjafjallajökull (Iceland) erupted after 187 years, and Sinabung volcano (Indonesia) erupted after 400 years. Planetary tremors have begun shaking the globe. They will intensify. Earth’s magnetic field is faltering and moving towards a polarity reversal as we approach the solar maximum (2012-2013). The energy unleashed in earthquakes is rising and the planet’s climate is becoming increasingly inhospitable and will be soon pushed to the brink of collapse. Civilization is poised on the precipice of the most stupendous crisis in Earth’s history and we are running out of time to save what remains left of the human race.

My question: Are things as bad as these people say?

Some people think that all of these are true and accurate and see will see the most catastrophic disasters the world has ever seen soon enough because we are abusing nature.

Some people - me included - that it's true, but an exaggeration. People should do more for the environment, but the situation is not critical... yet.

Some might say that it's far from the truth; that the Earth is resilient and has a lot left in it. That disasters now are no different from disasters from hundreds and thousands of years ago.

Then there are some that consider it as pure bullshit. As Carlin once put it, the earth has been through things a lot worse than humans and most likely it will keep going through without us at some point in the future.
Last edited by valacirca at Mar 15, 2011,
#2
Quote by valacirca

Some people - me included - that it's true, but an exaggeration. People should do more for the environment, but the situation is not critical... yet.

Sorry, I accidentally your post.

OT: The earth isn't dying because it's not a living thing.
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#3
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Sorry, I accidentally your post.

OT: The earth isn't dying because it's not a living thing.


Define living thing.
#4
Who cares, I won't be around when it dies...unless you're talking about 2012 in which I believe is stupid anyways
#5
I really thought all the 2012 stuff was bullshit, but so far we have had a shitload of disasters, all over the world. Not a good start of the year really.

I truly believe that all these bad things will happen - the volcanos will keep erupting and eventually i think it will cause another ice age. Whether or not we will survive it is a different story - i think we'll be taken back down and living like cavemen again. And I think it's happened before. Civilizations before us have had 'better' technology than us - the Egyptians and Mayans and others that i've forgotten about and don't have time to research. We learn new things by studying them every day.

My point is, perhaps this has happened before and is a repeating pattern that we can't do anything about.
#6
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Who cares, I won't be around when it dies...unless you're talking about 2012 in which I believe is stupid anyways


This.

If we all just do our part than it won't be such a big deal. Yeah, don't litter. Recycle. Blah, blah, blah.

Its important, but we shouldn't be worrying about it so much.
#7
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Define living thing.

I think scientists generally agree that a living thing has to respond and adapt to the environment, and reproduces.
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#8
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Sorry, I accidentally your post.

OT: The earth isn't dying because it's not a living thing.


You know what he meant. Obviously the earth can't die. He's asking if the world is becoming uninhabitable.

I don't know. Humans beings are very adaptable animals. If we find a way to make energy without using/abusing natural resources (a very real possibility) we'll be fine.
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Fools.

The Earth is built to last. It is a 4,550,000,000-year-old, 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000-tonne ball of iron. It has taken more devastating asteroid hits in its lifetime than you've had hot dinners, and lo, it still orbits merrily. So my first piece of advice to you, dear would-be Earth-destroyer, is: do NOT think this will be easy.
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#13
When all the trees have been cut down
when all the animals have been hunted
when all the waters are polluted
when all the air is unsafe to breathe
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.
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#14
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When all the trees have been cut down
when all the animals have been hunted
when all the waters are polluted
when all the air is unsafe to breathe
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

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When all the trees have been cut down
when all the animals have been hunted
when all the waters are polluted
when all the air is unsafe to breathe
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.


At first I thought you were quoting Rise Against

But then I recognized that famous Native American quote
#17
nope, its called a cycle, we are in the middle of it. 2012, the cycle reverts and starts again.

its only apparent that there is soo much destruction in the world becuase the world is globalised, we know whats happening in baglapoorbindock middle of nowheres ville, becuase we are are connected globally...we did not have this globalisation even 100 years ago, when such events may have happend but where not plasterd on the front of the newspapers or on every channel on tv.

have we ****ed the earth, somewhat, can we fix it, yes. the next generation, if they ever put down the dark crayons and art books and live in the real world. it lies in our hands now. baby boomers are gone, gen x and gen y need to see the mistakes made in the past and recitfy where our peers have failed.

green. im not talking gas etc, im talking green use, recycle, reuse!

think of earth as a cell, which some of you have smoked weed, you may have considered this yourself, the logic is there, earth is a cell of a much larger organism, we, humans, have become a cancer on this cell, its trying to cleanse itself of impurity.

the human race has come along way since the mayans, as a race of beings, we wont be extinct overnight, there will be great losses and massive devestation, but as a whole, the human race wont be extinct too easy.

just do your part, dont throw shit out the window of your car, recycle everything you can. im starting to sound like a greeny, and im not, but its time we got our act together as a human race, not as individual countries governed by politicians, but as the human race.

end rant, i cant remember if i was trying to put something across but i think i just rambled alot..whatever you take ylyl away from me and this is what we end up with!
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nope, its called a cycle, we are in the middle of it. 2012, the cycle reverts and starts again.

its only apparent that there is soo much destruction in the world becuase the world is globalised, we know whats happening in baglapoorbindock middle of nowheres ville, becuase we are are connected globally...we did not have this globalisation even 100 years ago, when such events may have happend but where not plasterd on the front of the newspapers or on every channel on tv.

have we ****ed the earth, somewhat, can we fix it, yes. the next generation, if they ever put down the dark crayons and art books and live in the real world. it lies in our hands now. baby boomers are gone, gen x and gen y need to see the mistakes made in the past and recitfy where our peers have failed.

green. im not talking gas etc, im talking green use, recycle, reuse!

think of earth as a cell, which some of you have smoked weed, you may have considered this yourself, the logic is there, earth is a cell of a much larger organism, we, humans, have become a cancer on this cell, its trying to cleanse itself of impurity.

the human race has come along way since the mayans, as a race of beings, we wont be extinct overnight, there will be great losses and massive devestation, but as a whole, the human race wont be extinct too easy.

just do your part, dont throw shit out the window of your car, recycle everything you can. im starting to sound like a greeny, and im not, but its time we got our act together as a human race, not as individual countries governed by politicians, but as the human race.

end rant, i cant remember if i was trying to put something across but i think i just rambled alot..whatever you take ylyl away from me and this is what we end up with!


I stopped reading at 2012.

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#19
it was probly for the best.
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#20
seriously though, its a cycle.... flooding then the big freeze. thats how the earth works. long cycles. its not dying.
#21
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green. im not talking gas etc, im talking green use, recycle, reuse!

Skipping the part about 2012, I'd like to point out that recycling is bad for the environment. It requires a lot more gas to ship the recycled materials to their respective processing plants, and more resources to process them, than just storing them in a landfill, which nowadays can be harvested for the natural gas produced from decomposition.
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#23
A lot of my Christian friends are 100% convinced that this is the second coming of Christ in the works. A lot of others are totally convinced that this is 2012 happening. I honestly think this is just the Earth doing what the Earth does.
#24
1. Earth is not dying and it will not die for another couple of billion years. There are very stable equilibriums that can be pushed and shoved around without much problems.

2. Humanity is going to die and it's pretty much f*cking themselves in the *ss atm...
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#25
no, life is not that fragile.

if it was, i see no reason that we have made it this far, and that life has been so adaptable to whatever conditions it was presented with.
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2. Humanity is going to die and it's pretty much f*cking themselves in the *ss atm...


I think we'd kill ourselves off before Earth becomes totally uninhabitable for humans. IE I predict survival of humans, but only >10% of the current population
#28
Bullshit. The earth will still be here long after we have wiped ourselves out. In 100,000 years after we're gone there will be very little trace of us left at all and things will have sorted themselves out, the earth will recover in relatively no time, 100,000 years or even 1million years is nothing for something that is billions of years old.
#29
I fukken love shit like this, watch
Our planet is dying and this is no mere rendezvous with a date on a Mayan calendar in 2012. It’s the mass termination of life on planet Earth.

By whom?
Nature is under a scientific directive.


It is irreversible.
Then why should we bother with it?
It is the extinction protocol.

The wat
In 2010, the planet was ravaged by the worst flooding seen in 1000 years, Pakistan, Colombia, and Australia.

So now we have records dating back 1000 years. And not only do they exist, but they're complete, accurate, and reliable. In Colombia (home 1000 years ago to a now-conquered people), Pakistan (I'm not so sure I'd trust their records NOW), and Australia (home 1000 years ago to a now-marginalized people). This is completely believable.
Profound earth-changes have already devastated the planet and even more catastrophic change is yet to come.

Which I assume you're basing in Steve House Life Rule #1: It could always suck more. True, nothing is so bad it can never get worse. That's pretty solid logic.
We are entering a period of extreme volcanism.

Never mind, it was until you said it was gonna happen now.
Chaitén (Chile) erupted after being dormant for 9500 years, Eyjafjallajökull (Iceland) erupted after 187 years, and Sinabung volcano (Indonesia) erupted after 400 years.

Long-dormant volcanoes explode all the time. We have a shit ton of them. Oh, and ahem, 9500 years? Your records. Show them to me. We're talking the 7500 BC range here.
Planetary tremors have begun shaking the globe. They will intensify.

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Earth’s magnetic field is faltering and moving towards a polarity reversal as we approach the solar maximum (2012-2013).

Yeah, and the magnetic polarity has reversed numerous times before. Guess who survived? I'll give you a hint, we're still here.
The energy unleashed in earthquakes is rising and the planet’s climate is becoming increasingly inhospitable and will be soon pushed to the brink of collapse.

The climate crisis is actually possible. Congratulations, Anonymous Person Quoted
Civilization is poised on the precipice of the most stupendous crisis in Earth’s history and we are running out of time to save what remains left of the human race.

Save what remains? Bitch for one we've never had six billion people before, and for two you said up there it was irreversable. What exactly do you plan to do about an irreversable extinction protocol?

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#30
So...like, is this like...the first time that like, the earth has gone through like changes and stuff? Like.
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#31
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no, life is not that fragile.

if it was, i see no reason that we have made it this far, and that life has been so adaptable to whatever conditions it was presented with.


We haven't been here that long.
#32
I'm ****ing perplexed that people can look at a few earthquakes in a period of ten years and think it's a pattern in the whole 4.5-billion year history of the earth.
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The Earth isn't dying, we're killing it.


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#36
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seriously though, its a cycle.... flooding then the big freeze. thats how the earth works. long cycles. its not dying.

The most important part of this is bolded. Yes, climate change naturally happens in cycles, but they happen over many thousands of years, not over the ~100 years that we're seeing currently, which means that the current rate of change is caused by something else (ie man made).

TS's quote is complete and utter bullshit, but if we continue on our current path things will not end well. Life will certainly survive, likely a large number of humans as well, but it definitely won't be the same as today.
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#38
Permian extinction anyone? You can't kill life that easily. Bacteria, algae etc. can survive a lot. The only ones who are ****ed in the short term are the on land and the coral life forms and the people in third world countries.*


*not only because of global warming and polution, but because there are just too many people there.
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#39
ITT: people who think that the earth suddenly started changing in the past few decades.
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#40
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The Earth isn't dying, we're killing it.

The earth is not being killed at all.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19225731.100-imagine-earth-without-people.html

This article used to explain what i was going on about, but apparently it isn't viewable now -_-'. It basically said that within a few hundred thousand years , all trace of humanity would be nearly gone if we went. We will not be able to do significant damage when you look at the kind of timescale that we're dealing with here, several hundred thousand years for the earth to repair is very little when the earth has been around for billions of years.

Even if we wiped ourselves out in full on nuclear war, things would eventually be alright, and to the earths timescale it would be in the blink of an eye.
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