#1
because of this stupid site:
http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/Fxdim.asp

why do they add a major seventh(d#)???? this turns it into a completely different chord according to this:
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/ChordNameFinder.htm

how i was playing it was moving the fourth finger note on the first string and using my ring finger to play it on the sixth string so i would have a moveable diminished chord. i would mute the fifth and first string.

honestly, to me it sounds better than just regular dim. but that chord name finder site doesnt even list it as an f# chord when i plug in f#,a,c,d#

wut you guys think?
#2
that's because it should be Eb not D#.

If you don't have Eb in there there is not, technically speaking, a seventh of F#
#3
How do you get D# (Eb) to be a major 7th in a F# chord?

I also really don't understand the problem you seem to be having... first chart is a F#dim chord in it's 3rd position I think you say... move it up 3 frets and you have F# in root, keep going up 3 frets each time and you can play all the inversion in a hartbeat
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Last edited by backtothe70s at Mar 16, 2011,
#4
That's how you play fully diminished 7th chord. You just spelled it incorrectly enharmonically.

As others have said, F# A C Eb


EDIT: What you want is a stack of minor thirds. Also, a fully diminished 7th has no acoustic root so the chord can be stacked from any note to make a different fully diminished 7th.


F# A C Eb

or

A C Eb Gb (F#)

or

C Eb Gb Bbb (A)

continuing,

Eb Gb (F#) Bbb(A) Dbb (C)

finally, you're back to the beginning enharmonically. As you can see, there are really only 4 fully diminished 7th chords.

Gb (F#) Bbb (A) Dbb (C) Fbb (Eb)
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Last edited by Artemis Entreri at Mar 16, 2011,
#5
Quote by Artemis Entreri
That's how you play fully diminished 7th chord. You just spelled it incorrectly enharmonically.

As others have said, F# A C Eb


EDIT: What you want is a stack of minor thirds. Also, a fully diminished 7th has no acoustic root so the chord can be stacked from any note to make a different fully diminished 7th.


F# A C Eb

or

A C Eb Gb (F#)

or

C Eb Gb Bbb (A)

continuing,

Eb Gb (F#) Bbb(A) Dbb (C)

finally, you're back to the beginning enharmonically. As you can see, there are really only 4 fully diminished 7th chords.

Gb (F#) Bbb (A) Dbb (C) Fbb (Eb)


ooookkkkaaayyy. makes more sense now. i always screw something up like that when dealing with theory.

so i am playing a 1-b3-b5-bb7

so then what are these called:
1-b3-b5 or 1-b3-b5-b7
#7
Quote by backtothe70s
How do you get D# (Eb) to be a major 7th in a F# chord?

I also really don't understand the problem you seem to be having... first chart is a F#dim chord in it's 3rd position I think you say... move it up 3 frets and you have F# in root, keep going up 3 frets each time and you can play all the inversion in a hartbeat


no no no.


what i was saying was how i was positioning the chord on the guitar.

they have it as:
first finger - fourth string - first fret
third finger - third string - second fret
second finger - second - string first fret
fourth finger - first string - second fret

I have it as:
third finger - 6th string - second fret
first finger - fourth string - first fret
fourth finger - third string - second fret
second finger - 2nd string - first fret
mute 5 and 1

I would use it like a moveable bar chord.
#8
There are different ways of playing dim7 chords.

The one you have been using, is a diminished 7th - That is an F# diminished 7th chord - it has everything including a bb7 (Eb) (its also a D# dimininshed...etc..as is is a good example of symmetrical chords)

Best,

Sean
Last edited by Sean0913 at Mar 18, 2011,
#9
Quote by Sean0913
There are different ways of playing dim7 chords.

The one you have been using, is a diminished 7th - That is an F# diminished 7th chord - it has everything including a bb7 (Ebb) (its also a D# dimininshed...etc..as is is a good example of symmetrical chords)

Best,

Sean


does "fully diminished" = "dim7"???
#10
Quote by Sean0913
There are different ways of playing dim7 chords.

The one you have been using, is a diminished 7th - That is an F# diminished 7th chord - it has everything including a bb7 (Ebb) (its also a D# dimininshed...etc..as is is a good example of symmetrical chords)

Best,

Sean


I know you know your stuff, but I'll just correct the typo...

F#dim7 = F# A C Eb