#1
Hey UG,

So my quest for my first "real" amp continues. I've just turned down a PEAVEY 5150 for the lack of a clean clean channel since running a two amp setup right now is really impractical.

I want the amp to be able to do 2 things mainly. Heavy heavy thick guitars and a nice clean tone.

What I want ideally is a combination of vintage and modern sounds. Like if The Stooges or the Master Of Reality Album had sex with Limp Bizkit's Chocolate Starfish And The Hot Dog Flavored Water record.

I don't know if its the amp but on those older records the distortion is way more filthy/grainy/deep and I want some of that in my sound but I also want the amp to handle a drop-d guitar put through an octave down setting on a Whammy pedal.

I play in a rap metal band, I will be using this amp for gigs, my budget is around 1000USD. I live in Europe, Lithuania.

A Marshall MA50C 112 is right in my budget NEW, not even used. You figure I can get the sound I want from that?
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#3
I've got a Bugera 6262-212. Many people say that it sounds a lot like a 6505 or a 5150, but with a good clean channel. If you liked the 5150 otherwise, then I can recommend the 6262, as I think the clean channel is very good and versatile. Can do pristine clean or slight break, and can be EQ'd to either tight snapping or sterile Jazzness.
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#4
How about a Laney ? Like a Laney LC50, or a Peavey Valve King? Those seem pretty available where I live.
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#5
Valvekings have surprisingly nice cleans, especially if you put a new speaker in. You might have trouble getting a really thick and dirty tone out of it without an overdrive pedal to boost it and tighten things up a bit. However, with your budget I think you could do much better than a Valveking (especially if you can go used).
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Valvekings have surprisingly nice cleans, especially if you put a new speaker in. You might have trouble getting a really thick and dirty tone out of it without an overdrive pedal to boost it and tighten things up a bit. However, with your budget I think you could do much better than a Valveking (especially if you can go used).


What would you recommend better than the Valve King ?
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#7
if you need to get the amp now then a Bugera 6262 or 333XL is your best bet. although the 6262 is a copy of the 5150 so you might not like it.

if i was you tho i would save and then find a used 2 Channel Dual Rectifier, its the exact sound you're describing. if you like Limb Bizkits gain tone, then that amp is it completely. i literally just bought one off ebay for £990 without shipping which is over $1000 but not that much, the extra cash would be worth it.

you would need a cab tho as well, any decent 2x12 with V30 speakers in it will do tho
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#8
the valveking is actually a pretty versatile amp imo. it just need tweaking, like better speakers, maybe better tubes, and a few simple mods (dummy jack for the input. Fx loop connection)

try it with an OD and see what you think, i once tried the head side by side with a 6534, and the 6534 killed it, but it was also alot mor expensive
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if you need to get the amp now then a Bugera 6262 or 333XL is your best bet. although the 6262 is a copy of the 5150 so you might not like it.

if i was you tho i would save and then find a used 2 Channel Dual Rectifier, its the exact sound you're describing. if you like Limb Bizkits gain tone, then that amp is it completely. i literally just bought one off ebay for £990 without shipping which is over $1000 but not that much, the extra cash would be worth it.

you would need a cab tho as well, any decent 2x12 with V30 speakers in it will do tho


Where I live though, a USED dual recto is almost twice my budget so that's out of question in a way.
Also a combo would be best. I once had to transport a half-stack in my Opel Vectra and the cab 4x12 wouldn't even fit in the trunk. Although you could argue that a 2x12 with a head is actually more portable than a combo i guess.
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I don't know if its the amp but on those older records the distortion is way more filthy/grainy/deep and I want some of that in my sound but I also want the amp to handle a drop-d guitar put through an octave down setting on a Whammy pedal.

Just like to point out that this is 36.7 hz, around one tone lower than a bass' low E. Probably not going to sound too good through a guitar speaker that is only rated to 60-80 hz.
#11
Sounds just fine on everything I've played through. Maybe it's because I use it in harmony mode so it's like a 50/50 blend of the regular note and the down shifted note .
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#12
If you want good cleans and the the rectifiers grit the best bet hands down is a mesa rectoverb, no rectifiers cleans really come close to it. And of course you have the exact same gain as a dual or triple rec.
The series 1 imo sounds better than series 2s and Ive been told there more desirable.

Someone suggested a 2 ch. dual thats not a bad suggestion but the 2 ch duals cleans are worse than a 3 ch. recto.
Really the only recto with a good clean tone and great lead ch. in the budget is a rectoverb.
EDIT- I seen the post about rectos being really pricey, idk still maybe check on a rectoverb they come in 1x12 combos too.
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#13
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Sounds like you want a Dual Recto. For your budget a Carvin MTS 3200 or a Bugera 333XL would do great


That bugera would be my pick, just swap the tubes and handle with care...
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#14
A Peavey XXX/JSX would be a lot heavier than a Valveking and would have a comparable clean.
#15
Try the Jet City JCA50 or JCA100. The Marshall MA is pretty thin-sounding.
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That bugera would be my pick, just swap the tubes and handle with care...


Is it like way fragile? Wouldn't really want that considering the places I play + transportation.
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#17
I think he means just handle with care because you can break tubes being rough with them, I have the 333xl myself, and it's fine for everything you described.
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#18
I can't honestly say I've played one, but I've heard great things about the Jet City gear. Sounds like a lot of amp for the money.
Maybe get a Ceriatone clone of something you want? Their stuff is fantastic, and far superior to Bugera etc.
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Is it like way fragile? Wouldn't really want that considering the places I play + transportation.


Not way fragile, but not exactly a tank either. A lot of plastic used in construction to cut down costs. Sounds great, pretty close to the real thing but not the same build quality.
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