#1
I've always been attracted to the multi effects scene cuz you can set it all up so that one button changes lots of effects to what you need for different bits of a song.

How do people go from screaming lead tones (with for eg. your amp on its dirty channel with a overdrive pedal to boost it, a bit of reverb and a full delay) into chilled out clean tone (with just a little reverb and your amp on clean)?

If you are going from maybe a solo in the chorus into a chilled bridge, that requires you to push 3 buttons in a fraction of a second and while you do that you have to think about what you are playing? It seems damn near impossible!

SO, how do you manage this?
#2
Practice??? thats a good question idk maybe a multi effect pedal like a boss gt-8 or something like it
#3
Pedals. One channel is the lead tone, the next is a clean tone, etc. Just hit a button and boom! Takes some practice to get used to pedals, though.
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#5
obviously we are dealing with pedals and amp switching pedals. The question is how the hell you manage to stomp three times between parts of a song?

And ya I have seen the g-system. Its an amazing idea but for all of us who don't have millions to blow.... That is the ultimate though
Last edited by vodkanoodle at Mar 20, 2011,
#6
MIDI switching.
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#8
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MIDI switching.

+1

And connect the pedals to a midi switcher station eg. Rocktron Patchmate Loop 8. They do cost though... A proper system for your pedals would be around 500e I guess...
#10
Hell if I know
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#11
it's all a matter of priority with me... I mean, if I wanted to go from a chorussy clean to a screamin' lead, I turned the chorus off first, maybe 1 or 2 seconds before the phrase change, then turned the dist pedal on or whatever gave me the lead, then the delay... the thing is to find a way you're comfortable with and do it in a way that's the least noticeable
#12
That's the advantage of a multifx. You can do that at minimal cost. A cheap way to do it with a pedalboard is to create two chains and put them on a loop switch. But that's fairly limited.
#13
Quote by Darkflame
it's all a matter of priority with me... I mean, if I wanted to go from a chorussy clean to a screamin' lead, I turned the chorus off first, maybe 1 or 2 seconds before the phrase change, then turned the dist pedal on or whatever gave me the lead, then the delay... the thing is to find a way you're comfortable with and do it in a way that's the least noticeable

^
Practice.

Its really all about timing the changes so its least noticeable.

I try to change the modulation effects during a ringing chord. Any OD/Dist/Fuzz I kick in at the next chord or whatever.

Edit: This reply is for TS.
Last edited by CodeMonk at Mar 20, 2011,
#15
I use the G major 2, which only has one relay switch. But my midi pedal (behringer FCB1010) has 2 switches. If your amp has external switching jacks it's very easy.

I have my amp locked into the lead channel on the back panel. So when it's getting no signal it's always on channel 3. Then I program the FCB1010 so that when I select an FX preset that is set up for a clean tone, it also tells my amp to go to channel 1. When I hit my rhythm preset it tells the amp chanel 2. I do everything with a single pedal press. Your amp doesn't have to have midi switching, it just has to have external channel switching control. Some amps you'd have to make a custom cable and replace the amps' footswitch, but a LOT of amps support external switching via regular 1/4" stereo cables.
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#16
you go to loopmaster.com and have them build you a custom clean/dirty loop/channel switcher like i am having built right now. it also has combinable loops and a switch to "assign" a loop to a channel.

look here
www.loop-master.com/
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#17
Quote by iheartgun
you go to loopmaster.com and have them build you a custom clean/dirty loop/channel switcher like i am having built right now. it also has combinable loops and a switch to "assign" a loop to a channel.

look here
www.loopmasters.com/

I know it was an accident, but please change the link before I report you.
#18
fixed and next time how about a pm so i dont look like a tard

k thanks
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#19
I use a zoom g2...after editing the patch, save the new patch by pressing the "Store" key and using the "Bank" keys to choose the target bank where you will store the sound. Use the foot switches to choose the effect's patch number within the target bank. Press the "Store" key again to save the new patch..then go back to play mode and use the foot swtiches to change effects..
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#20
Well my planned rig is like this. I think you will find that this arrangement works for pedals for almost all kinds of music.

Guitar 1 > Wah pedal > Clean Boost / OD stompbox > Loop mixer Input

(a loop mixer takes an input signal, runs it through two loops, routes it out to the next unit in ur chain)

Loop A send > PreAmp1 (Set to Clean) > Loop A return > Loop B send > PreAmp2 (Set to dirty) > Loop B return > Loop mixer output

> Delay > Phase/Mod > Active SpeakerCab/Power Amp/PA System/DI

Operation: Activate Loop A signal for cleans. Use OD for slightly higher gain bluesy stuff. Use the loop switcher to switch between clean and dirty channels. If you're using only the dirty channel, use clean boost for solos or your wah. Anything else just goes either between the wah and loop switcher or the loop switcher and your speaker.

This is how I use my set-up. I realize it's slightly problematic for people using only one amp but really loop switchers can solve your minimalist problems. If you're a pedal freak and want several things on all the time, MIDI is the only way to go.

P.S. If you're using this setup, ensure that either your wah or your boost stomp has buffered bypass to prevent cable capacitance.