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#1
Hey everyone, I had a few quick questions, I know no one here is a lawyer, but I was wondering if anyone knew if I had any rights to this.

I'm 17, I messed up, took Adderall a few times, and got caught. I smoked pot too, as much as any high school kid would, and my mother is a drug addict, and currently on the streets. I've been clean for over a month now, and I have no reason to mess around with pot again, since I'm busy finishing up my senior year.

Well, my father wants to send me to a Rehab for 5 months, It's not court-ordered, I was wondering if I could actually refuse to go. Just if I had any rights or anything that says I don't have to go since It's not court-ordered. I'd rather get kicked out and finish school at a friends house, but I was wondering if I HAD to go. I'm in the process of getting Financial Aid done for college, and I have my career lined up, if that means anything.

Thanks for listening, this is pretty rough for me right now, just hoping to see if I can say anything that makes this "illegal" (in the loosest term)
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#2
They try to make TS go to rehab and he said:

No, uh no, no.
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#3
In order for you to be able to refuse admittance, you'd have to be emancipated from your parents. As a 17 year old, it's possible, but extraordinarily difficult. You have to prove autonomy, means of survival, etc. Not likely it's going to happen, but you can try.
#4
So, as a minor, they have the right to send me to a rehab facility, even if I do refuse and it's not court-mandated?
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#5
Since you're still under 18
I believe you are obligated to since you are not an adult yet.
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#6
Alright, well thanks guys. I was just wondering. I just think it'll backfire, since It's honestly not that bad, and I feel like I'll turn into a pissy teenager with resentment.

I am looking forward to when I get out. I can say "Nothing has changed."

I've never been that spiteful, pissy, teen, but...I feel like this can really turn me into one. Or brainwash me. I don't know.
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#7
cant you do your work while at rehab?
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#8
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cant you do your work while at rehab?


Yeah, but I'm not so sure I'll have computer access to get financial stuff done, plus registering for my college, which would be 3 hours north since I'm being sent 3 hours south of my town for this. West Palm Beach, Florida is where the place is. I don't think it's too good an environment, since it's a big city with alot of crime.
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#9
Can't you talk to your dad and explain it to him? Explain that you don't need rehab, and it'll be better for your life if you don't go and continue on with your college plans?

It seems to me that rehab right now would really mess you up more than help you, because from the small amount of info you've given us, it seems like you don't need it.

#10
It sounds to me like


A) You have done WAY more than you are letting on

or

2) you old man is really overreacting


You could go, find a chick who is compensating for not being able to do drugs by having sex....enjoy
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#11
You're being sent to rehab for weed and Adderal? Sorry mang that really sucks... Make sure to bring your Bob Marley CDs
#13
I got caught with weed a week ago, my Mom threatened to send me to rehab because I was trying to tell her facts about weed.

I laughed in her face and told her she was being ridiculous.
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#14
why in the world does your dad want to send you to rehab for 5 months for smoking pot a couple of times?

On top of that, what rehab facility would even allow you in based on that miniscule amount of drug "abuse"?
#16
I smoked pot, but I wasn't a pothead.

Here's my list of drugs I've done.

Adderall - 3 or 4 times.
Pot - Smoked hundreds of times.
Alcohol - 2 times a month at most.
Xanax - Once.
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#17
He's a member of AA, he did alot of hard drugs at one point, he won't buy into that shit.
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#19
You can absolutely be accepted into rehab for weed. No question. It's not worth fighting about it. I'd suggest talking to your dad. Be honest. Give him your entire drug history. That way he'll be more likely to think you're being honest.

And say that you feel rehab is not in the best interest of your health and future. But clarify it's not because you don't think you need rehab. Say it's because 5 months is too long and can affect getting into college. See if you can negotiate it down or explain that you'll stop.
#20
I have a therapist, I was blindsided with this today, like, he just said You'll be going for a drug evaluation. Nothing about an in-patient program. His mind is basically set. It really sucks because I'm 4 months away from my 18th birthday.
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#21
Also. I've told him my COMPLETE drug history, he keeps thinking I'm lying and I've done more.
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#22
Then see if you can delay the rehab for a few months. Say, "Look Dad, I understand your point of view. I really do. But I need to register for college and get financial aid, etc. Otherwise, I'm screwed. I'll have to take a year off, and I'll probably do more drugs than I do now. Just let me take care of the college stuff and THEN ship me off to rehab."

Then, once you're 18, he can't send you to rehab.
#23
Well most addicts, former and current, tend to have little confidence in others. I'm not sure this is a battle you can win mang. Like someone else said, go find a hot chick there and get some. Broken girls are the best =P
#24
I've tried that. He's pretty crafty. I think he's doing it now so I CAN'T refuse when I'm 18.
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#25
You are free to walk out the door at 18

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I have a therapist, I was blindsided with this today, like, he just said You'll be going for a drug evaluation. Nothing about an in-patient program. His mind is basically set. It really sucks because I'm 4 months away from my 18th birthday.



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Quote by Florida law Section 743.015

(1) A circuit court has jurisdiction to remove the disabilities of nonage of a minor age 16 or older residing in this state upon a petition filed by the minor's natural or legal guardian or, if there is none, by a guardian ad litem.

(2) The petition shall contain the following information:

(a) The name, address, residence, and date of birth of the minor.

(b) The name, address, and current location of each of the minor's parents, if known.

(c) The name, date of birth, custody, and location of any children born to the minor.

(d) A statement of the minor's character, habits, education, income, and mental capacity for business, and an explanation of how the needs of the minor with respect to food, shelter, clothing, medical care, and other necessities will be met.

(e) Whether the minor is a party to or the subject of a pending judicial proceeding in this state or any other jurisdiction, or the subject of a judicial order of any description issued in connection with such pending judicial proceeding.

(f) A statement of the reason why the court should remove the disabilities of nonage.

(3) If the petition is filed by the natural or legal guardian, the court must appoint an attorney ad litem for the minor child, and the minor child shall be brought before the court to determine if the interest of the minor will be fully protected by the removal of disabilities of nonage. The attorney ad litem shall represent the child in all related proceedings.

(4) If the petition is filed by the guardian ad litem or next friend, service of process must be perfected on the natural parents.

(5) If both parents are not jointly petitioning the court for the removal of the disabilities of nonage of the minor, service of process must be made upon the nonpetitioning parent. Constructive service of process may be used, provided the petitioning parent makes an actual, diligent search to discover the location of, and provide notice to, the nonpetitioning parent.

(6) The court shall consider the petition and receive such evidence as it deems necessary to rule on the petition. If the court determines that removal of the disabilities of nonage is in the minor's best interest, it shall enter an order to that effect. An order removing the disabilities of nonage shall have the effect of giving the minor the status of an adult for purposes of all criminal and civil laws of the state, and shall authorize the minor thereafter to exercise all of the rights and responsibilities of persons who are 18 years of age or older.

(7) The court shall consider the petition and, if satisfied that the removal of the disabilities is in the minor's best interest, shall remove the disabilities of nonage; and shall authorize the minor to perform all acts that the minor could do if he or she were 18 years of age.

(8) The judgment shall be recorded in the county in which the minor resides, and a certified copy shall be received as evidence of the removal of disabilities of nonage for all matters in all courts.


EDIT: It looks like in Fla it is really tough to become emancipated without at least one parents consent.
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#26
I've looked at emancipation. I don't think they would grant me it because I tested positive for drugs.
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#27
And probably because you can't prove independence. You would need a steady job that pays enough for you to have shelter and eat regularly.
#28
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And probably because you can't prove independence. You would need a steady job that pays enough for you to have shelter and eat regularly.


If I got emancipation, could I get a job a at a place that requires you to be 18 to work there? My friends grandmother manages an arcade that pays a good amount.
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#29
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If I got emancipation, could I get a job a at a place that requires you to be 18 to work there? My friends grandmother manages an arcade that pays a good amount.


You need the job before emancipation. To be emancipated, you need to prove autonomy. You can't just bring up a cardboard sheet that you used for your science fair with a plan written on it. You can't say, "Well, if I'm emancipated, I'll get this job and live here."
#30
Well, then it's a vicious circle. I have a job lined up for when I AM 18, but since I'm not right now, there is no point. So, I guess I'm going to end up going to rehab anyway. I really feel like it's unnecessary, and the counselor said something like "If you aren't willing, there is no point sending you". I never said I was willing. I wonder if I can use that.
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#31
Quote by MattAnderson111
Well, then it's a vicious circle. I have a job lined up for when I AM 18, but since I'm not right now, there is no point. So, I guess I'm going to end up going to rehab anyway. I really feel like it's unnecessary, and the counselor said something like "If you aren't willing, there is no point sending you". I never said I was willing. I wonder if I can use that.


I would do my best to try to show the counselor that rehab is useless. Bullshit, honesty, whatever. If he thinks it's unnecessary, he will tell your father so.
#32
They find it necessary. They were all previous addicts too. They said some addicts are born genetically with this "5th nodule" in the primitive brain if there parents were addicts. Being addiction, the normal 4 are Food,Water,Shelter and Mating. Apparently I have a 5th one, since my mother is an addict, I call bullshit on this. But they had my family convinced this was the right move for me, even though this woman didn't know me at all, like it was a representative from the rehab place.
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#33
You could try to persuade him into letting you take those cheap, at home drug tests to prove that you have been keeping yourself clean? I think i would rather abstain from drugs to pass a test than go to rehab for 5 months, especially with all the work you need to do for college an whatnot. This may not work since it sounds like he is pretty set on his decision, but its worth a shot, and it seems like a pretty viable option.
#34
I tried. I said I'll take drug tests, I have been clean for a while. He keeps comparing me to my mother, and it's not right. We aren't the same person. And addiction isn't as cut and dry as these programs make it to be.
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#35
Drug rehab is optional for anyone, unless court-ordered.
Well if you're not doing drugs now, itd be a waste.
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#36
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Drug rehab is optional for anyone, unless court-ordered.
Well if you're not doing drugs now, itd be a waste.


I'm a minor.
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#37
It doesn't seem right that he can force you. Is there anywhere in the law that says if a parent wants their child to go, they have to? What happens if you're not officially emancipated, but just move in with friends?

What if you asked him to regularly drug test you? To prove that you're not on anything? That would still be cheaper than rehab... And then, once you're 18, you can flat out leave and go back to smoking pot when you feel like it. Nothing wrong with that.

#38
Like I said, I tried that stuff. I want to be drug tested everyday, that wont "cure" me as the rehab counselor said. Also, the rehab is free, paid for by the state.
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#40
Do you really, really not want to go? Or do you not mind it that much? Because I guarantee with enough effort you can get out of going, but if you don't care about losing 5 months of your life, then just go through with it.

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