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#1
Obviously they should be punished/locked-up to protect the rest of society. But do they deserve that? I mean, it was just a long chain of chemical reactions in their brain that made them do it. It's not fair...they don't have control over their brain chemistry.

Also, isn't everyone greedy? Everybody is truly interested only in making themselves happy. Sure, they may help others, but only because it makes themselves happy.


EDIT: I don't want it to sound like I support murder or anything...I do think they should be punished. But I do feel slightly bad for them.
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#4
Yes they do. /thread
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#6
nah, let's just let everybody do what they want. it will all turn out ok in the end...
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#9
ITT: TS' mom gets murdered.
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#10
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TS, someone murders your mom and you catch him. What would you like done to him?



Cut off his toes and then his fingers and then make him eat them.
#11
Quote by chillingmike
Cut off his toes and then his fingers and then make him eat them.


So punishment is deserved isn't it?
#12
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Cut off his toes and then his fingers and then make him eat them.


You're telling me that's not punishment? I'd personally let him go because it was obviously just a series of chemical reactions in his brain. WHATAREYOUGONNADO?

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#13
Murders are individuals not capable of functioning in society and are dangerous to other people, so they should be removed from it.
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#14
What is the punishment going to lead to? Give them care instead, as long as their prison sentence is for.
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#15
They deserve punishment. Preferably involving an S&W .44 Mag.
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#17
so you are saying that nobody has control about whatever they do, since its basicly a chain of chemical reactions in the brain? Then pretty much everything we do is meaningles, and anyone can just do whatever they want.
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#18
Quote by sloppyjoe24
You're telling me that's not punishment? I'd personally let him go because it was obviously just a series of chemical reactions in his brain. WHATAREYOUGONNADO?



Your opinion is invalid because it was just caused by a series of chemical reactions in your brain.


Yes, I realize this is self-contradicting.
#21
I mean, maybe, but the real question is, must we punish them?
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#22
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so you are saying that nobody has control about whatever they do, since its basicly a chain of chemical reactions in the brain? Then pretty much everything we do is meaningles, and anyone can just do whatever they want.
Pretty depressing, huh?
#23
Quote by chillingmike
Obviously they should be punished/locked-up to protect the rest of society. But do they deserve that? I mean, it was just a long chain of chemical reactions in their brain that made them do it. It's not fair...they don't have control over their brain chemistry.

Also, isn't everyone greedy? Everybody is truly interested only in making themselves happy. Sure, they may help others, but only because it makes themselves happy.


EDIT: I don't want it to sound like I support murder or anything...I do think they should be punished. But I do feel slightly bad for them.


We don't put them in jail as punishment. We put them in jail because they are a danger to society. Obviously, jail ought to be a correctional facility which rehabilitates criminals, but that's sadly not the way jail works, and as a result, recidivism rates are very high.
#24
Yes, because it makes the world a safer place.
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Your opinion is invalid because it was just caused by a series of chemical reactions in your brain.


Yes, I realize this is self-contradicting.



My opinion always matters. Always.

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#26
TS is a moron he wants people that make skin suits out of other people to just walk around because they are imbalanced.

great great logic.

molesters should be teachers too, HUH TS?
its not fair that imbalance in their brain makes them molest, they deserve any job they want!
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#27
This guy was imprisoned for 10 000 years. He became even more crazy afterwards.

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#29
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All murderers should be put to death.


So, where would it end? Wouldn't you have to kill the people who kill the initial murderer?
#30
Well, not necessarily. You know that eye for an eye saying... it's true but the cycles already began so the current justice system in place should suffice for the time being.
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Well, not necessarily. You know that eye for an eye saying... it's true but the cycles already began so the current justice system in place should suffice for the time being.


So, if I rape someone, I should be raped? And he who rapes me will be raped? Right?
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#32
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So, where would it end? Wouldn't you have to kill the people who kill the initial murderer?


I'm sure you could kill somebody in a really passive way i.e letting hungry lions loose in death row.
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#33
Hahaha. That's pretty sound logic but I don't actually think that can happen in reality, unfortunately. It does happen on a much larger scale, however, from what I've observed.
#34
putting some one to death for killing some one is different then skining some one and eating them, or breaking into their house and raping and then shooting them to death.

putting killers to death for the state ≠ murder
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#35
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All murderers should be put to death.


Rubbish. That only perpetuates the cycle, with worse results than prison systems. The system itself is not flawed but the execution [Pun not intended] is. Why kill people when you can attempt to fix the problem?
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#37
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So punishment is deserved isn't it?



That doesn't mean punishment is deserved, it just means people are vengeful.

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Rubbish. That only perpetuates the cycle, with worse results than prison systems. The system itself is not flawed but the execution [Pun not intended] is. Why kill people when you can attempt to fix the problem?


Agreed. It can swing both ways you know? I'm sure it'll all sort itself out sooner or later if we don't end up blowing ourselves to smithereens by then.
#39
if I would have my own jail, i would say eye for and eye.
You killed someone with a knife without regret? you get stabbed.
You raped someone? we send you into the showers with 3 fat black guys.
you stole something?
the things you own are auctioned.
etc...
I sometimes dream of creating a prison island like Alcatraz but in the ocean.
And that as soon as you know you'll go to that prison you'll cry and pee your pants.
Not for all criminals though, only the ones that can't go back to society.
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#40
I think the prison system should be based on rehabilitation, not punishment. They should be reviewed and released if they are deemed fit by a panel of professionals. The life sentences should be reserved for the most unrepentant, and there should be nothing as barbaric as the death penalty.

Unfortunately, this is probably never going to happen.
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