#1
I was just wondering how I could turn an active pickup into a passive one. I'm about to get a pair of EMG 85s but I don't have a lot of 9Vs and I don't like wasting them. I still need the high output maintained but if anyone can suggest ideas to ONLY REMOVE THE NEED OF THE 9-VOLT BATTERIES that would be appreciated. If you want to say no, then keep that to yourselves. Please and thank you.
#2
There is no way to turn an active EMG pickup a passive pickup. The 9 volt batteries last forever anyways, so you will not be wasting them. If you want a high output passive pickup, you shouldn't have gotten EMG's...
#3
Buy some EMG HZs if you're really intent on using EMGs but still go passive, otherwise it's not happening.
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Buy a X2N or something
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#5
You can't make active pups passive and vice versa. Just how they're made. Really, the 9 volt isn't something you replace every other week... they last quite some time... many months... and still, if you reallllllyyyy can't have 9 volts in your pups and want em very hot, go with an X2N or such. There is a large abundance of passive pickups with very high output. Still, nothing really sounds like an active pickup so, if you can put up with the 9v's being changed out every half a year, than get the EMG's.
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#6
With just 2 pickups a 9v battery should last a long time. For example if you were to play 3-4 hours a day with that particular guitar, the average 9v battery should last over a year.
#7
I accidentally left my guitar plugged in for three days without realizing it, and have had that same battery in since last August. You have to try to kill them from overuse.
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#8
I'm about to get a pair of EMG 85s but I don't have a lot of 9Vs and I don't like wasting them


Thanks, that gave me a huge laugh. You could always build yourself a power supply and plug it in the wall and just put a power jack on the guitar somewhere.
#10
Quote by Syriel
You could always get rechargeable 9v batteries.


I'm pretty sure EMG advises against using rechargeable 9v batteries with their pickups. I believe it's because the pickups are designed for use with alkaline batteries where as most, if not all, rechargeable batteries use nickel-metal hydride (which allows them to be recharged) and EMG does not advise the use of anything other than alkalines.
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#11
^Yeah, I've heard that too.
Batteries will last for months anyway, and they aren't expensive. You should really only have to replace them 3-4 times a year if you're playing a few hours a day.
#12
I've got three active guitars and in the last year I've only had to change two of the three batteries. Even when I only had one active guitar that was taking up all my time, a battery would last for the majority of a year, about 10 months or so. Even if you went all-out and were playing the guitar for several hours every single day of every week then a battery will last at least six months. Just use them as they're intended; not that you have a choice, you can't make active pickups passive regardless. It's simply not possible. If they could turn an active pickup passive while keeping the same power, why would they even make active pickups? Where do you think active pickups even get their output from, what do you think their preamps are powered by?
#13
Quote by Tzuqris
Thanks, that gave me a huge laugh. You could always build yourself a power supply and plug it in the wall and just put a power jack on the guitar somewhere.


Lol I was actually going to say this. Randome power wire from the battery compartment to the outlet, assuming it's even possible.

Why bother getting EMGs if you don't want to use batteries?
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Why bother getting EMGs if you don't want to use batteries?

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#15
Quote by Krauser
I'm pretty sure EMG advises against using rechargeable 9v batteries with their pickups. I believe it's because the pickups are designed for use with alkaline batteries where as most, if not all, rechargeable batteries use nickel-metal hydride (which allows them to be recharged) and EMG does not advise the use of anything other than alkalines.



the Construction of the batteries makes no difference, all the guitar cares about it volts. A ni-mh putting out 9 volts is the same an an akaline putting out 9 volts.


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#16
You are talking one or 2 batteries a year. Thats maybe $3 - 8 per year. And if the other poster is correct & you dont need alkaline which I am inclined to agree with, you can get them at the dollar store. They may not last as long, but a dollar.......!!!!
#18
Quote by joonhoahn01
I was just wondering how I could turn an active pickup into a passive one. I'm about to get a pair of EMG 85s but I don't have a lot of 9Vs and I don't like wasting them. I still need the high output maintained but if anyone can suggest ideas to ONLY REMOVE THE NEED OF THE 9-VOLT BATTERIES that would be appreciated. If you want to say no, then keep that to yourselves. Please and thank you.



If you really want to turn an active pickup into a passive one I'd suggest just making a new pickup from scratch. As that is essentially what you will end up doing except you'll be adding many steps like opening it up, unwinding the copper, remove the remaining electronics, then work back up from there. [that would essentially kill all value the pickup has]


Imo, it's too much work when i could just make a new pickup. That would sound relatively the same to the 85,

But if you really want to. There are no bars holding you.

EDIT:
Quote by Gundamnitpete

the Construction of the batteries makes no difference, all the guitar cares about it volts. A ni-mh putting out 9 volts is the same an an akaline putting out 9 volts.

OP, LOL!



Reason being is Ni-Mh material batteries don't have a constant amperage and voltage. Instead they fluctuate which during a show would cause some slight differences. (though you might not notice them at all )
Alkaline batteries though are near constant thus more reliable.

Plus they wouldn't just recommend against them for a slight reason.
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#19
Quote by Krauser
I'm pretty sure EMG advises against using rechargeable 9v batteries with their pickups. I believe it's because the pickups are designed for use with alkaline batteries where as most, if not all, rechargeable batteries use nickel-metal hydride (which allows them to be recharged) and EMG does not advise the use of anything other than alkalines.


I've never really understood the reasoning behind companies recommending this. In my experience rechargeables provide a more consistent voltage however it is a different voltage than acid/alkaline disposable batteries.
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#20
Quote by Deadlock Riff
If you really want to turn an active pickup into a passive one I'd suggest just making a new pickup from scratch. As that is essentially what you will end up doing except you'll be adding many steps like opening it up, unwinding the copper, remove the remaining electronics, then work back up from there. [that would essentially kill all value the pickup has]


Imo, it's too much work when i could just make a new pickup. That would sound relatively the same to the 85,

But if you really want to. There are no bars holding you.

EDIT:


Reason being is Ni-Mh material batteries don't have a constant amperage and voltage. Instead they fluctuate which during a show would cause some slight differences. (though you might not notice them at all )
Alkaline batteries though are near constant thus more reliable.

Plus they wouldn't just recommend against them for a slight reason.



suit yourself, rechareable= cheaper in the long run (they're like nothing from harbor frieght) and i can hear no difference.
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#21
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I've never really understood the reasoning behind companies recommending this. In my experience rechargeables provide a more consistent voltage however it is a different voltage than acid/alkaline disposable batteries.



Voltage is the same, there are two types of voltage, more and less.
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#22
I was told by a tech not you use rechargeable batteries in audio equipment because instead of slowly dying they just cut out, which would be tragic at a gig. If this is true or not I don't know because I'v never needed to change my battery for my EMG
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#23
Quote by Somekid94
There is no way to turn an active EMG pickup a passive pickup. The 9 volt batteries last forever anyways, so you will not be wasting them. If you want a high output passive pickup, you shouldn't have gotten EMG's...


I definitely told you to keep that to yourself.
#24
Quote by Tzuqris
Thanks, that gave me a huge laugh. You could always build yourself a power supply and plug it in the wall and just put a power jack on the guitar somewhere.


That's what I mean! I'm planning on using an AC adapter just like the way I could to my pedal! Anyone with a some sort of a mod guide? I also could use a ridiculously long adapter as well, if only I can find out how to make one.
#25
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Think of the batteries as sacrifices to Satan for letting you rock so hard.


Er... not exactly... although I like their maximum output...
#26
Quote by grohl1987
I've got three active guitars and in the last year I've only had to change two of the three batteries. Even when I only had one active guitar that was taking up all my time, a battery would last for the majority of a year, about 10 months or so. Even if you went all-out and were playing the guitar for several hours every single day of every week then a battery will last at least six months. Just use them as they're intended; not that you have a choice, you can't make active pickups passive regardless. It's simply not possible. If they could turn an active pickup passive while keeping the same power, why would they even make active pickups? Where do you think active pickups even get their output from, what do you think their preamps are powered by?


Every second you say that, I can see a 9V draining out all of a sudden the very next day.
#27
Quote by Krauser
You can't make active pups passive and vice versa. Just how they're made. Really, the 9 volt isn't something you replace every other week... they last quite some time... many months... and still, if you reallllllyyyy can't have 9 volts in your pups and want em very hot, go with an X2N or such. There is a large abundance of passive pickups with very high output. Still, nothing really sounds like an active pickup so, if you can put up with the 9v's being changed out every half a year, than get the EMG's.


Even on pedals they drain too quickly that I ended up getting a 9v adapter. Seriously, they only last a day.
#28
Quote by Syriel
You could always get rechargeable 9v batteries.


I can see that working, too, if only I could buy a charger for it.
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#31
WAIT

This thread is NOT DEAD as I did not get my answer yet.


Also, it is not even that old.
Last edited by joonhoahn01 at Nov 3, 2011,