#1
I've been looking at buying an 8 string, but am unsure of what I would need amp wise to get the best tone from it. I have a Traynor DG30d right now, which is ok, but I'm sure not the best for the extra lows of the 8. I'm thinking a bass amp or bass head + cab would be best? or no?
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#3
Maybe a cab with a 15" speaker?
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#4
get a bass cab. you don't need a 15inch speaker, but get a bass cab.the head is matter of opinion, bass amps sound pretty good on guitar but you will need a dirt pedal.
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#5
I'm a little confused with the dirt pedal, but I do have a Big Muff. A lot of the amps in my local shop are combos. So all that'd be there are bass amps. Theres a Peavy ValveKing112 I'm looking into, but I doubt that'd be best.
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#7
Anything less expensive?
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#9
Quote by liampje
You need a big speaker.
Small speakers can't make low notes well.
physics can come in handy these times.

Sure they can. Most high end bass cabs now days are loaded with 10" speakers.

Using a 15" speaker would just make his tone flub out IMO. 15s are great for a huge sub tone, but aren't going to be good for a tight tone, which an 8 string greatly needsfrom it's amp, otherwise it will sound like complete mud.

For an 8 string, I'd recommend a solid state head, as they tend to stay tighter. Something like a Line 6 Vetta/HD147, Axe-FX or Ampeg VH-140C would be ideal.
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Last edited by MatrixClaw at Mar 27, 2011,
#10
Quote by liampje
You need a big speaker.
Small speakers can't make low notes well.
physics can come in handy these times.

The Markbass Micro combos and thier 6" speakers strongly disagree with you.
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#11
Quote by MatrixClaw
Sure they can. Most high end bass cabs now days are loaded with 10" speakers.

Using a 15" speaker would just make his tone flub out IMO. 15s are great for a huge sub tone, but aren't going to be good for a tight tone, which an 8 string greatly needsfrom it's amp, otherwise it will sound like complete mud.

For an 8 string, I'd recommend a solid state head, as they tend to stay tighter. Something like a Line 6 Vetta/HD147, Axe-FX or Ampeg VH-140C would be ideal.



This is pretty tight-
The amp seems to be a VM or Plexi of some sort.....I'm probably mistaken though, dunno much about Marshall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8GxxSWCjyU

And the Axe is a pre amp.
Last edited by GS LEAD 5 at Mar 27, 2011,
#12
Bass gear is not needed for 8 string guitars.

Here's some heads that go great with lower frequencies.

Fortin NATAS
Engl Invader
Engl Savage
Baron Custom Amps K88/K2
Orange Rockerverb 100
Axefx

Just to name a few..

Note - I played my Agile 827 through a Diezel Herbert and it was just too crunchy for my tastes but still worked.

Also stock pickups in most 8 string guitars are pretty shitty. The RGA8s and the Agile 8 string pickups are pretty shotty. Some people like EMGs but I'd say put money out for a Lundgren M8 or some BKPs. They will keep the low end nice and tight for you.
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Last edited by kylendm at Mar 27, 2011,
#13
Quote by kylendm
Bass gear is not needed for 8 string guitars.

Here's some heads that go great with lower frequencies.

Fortin NATAS
Engl Invader
Engl Savage
Baron Custom Amps K88/K2
Orange Rockerverb 100
Axefx

Just to name a few..

Note - I played my Agile 827 through a Diezel Herbert and it was just too crunchy for my tastes but still worked.

Also stock pickups in most 8 string guitars are pretty shitty. The RGA8s and the Agile 8 string pickups are pretty shotty. Some people like EMGs but I'd say put money out for a Lundgren M8 or some BKPs. They will keep the low end nice and tight for you.



The Axe is a pre amp.
#14
Well yeah you have to get a power amp but I'm just saying.

God when did the forum start getting raided by fags who think they know everything.
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Peavey 4x12(K85s)
Last edited by kylendm at Mar 27, 2011,
#15
Quote by kylendm
Well yeah you have to get a power amp but I'm just saying.

God when did the forum start getting raided by fags who think they know everything.


Yeah, I thought axe-fx implied axe-fx rig
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#16
Quote by GS LEAD 5

The Axe is a pre amp.


you've already stated this......

ENGL Invader or SE
6505 may work well, they can be pretty tight with a boost to tighten it up more
Deizel Herbert

most of the 8 string stuff i've seen tho is using an Axe-fx and it does sound pretty good, personally i liked this video with the Deizel Einstein more tho but thats my preference, it has a lot of low end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKxJG0p45Ek

im not gonna say any recto for once because i can imagine that the low end of a recto plus the 8 string would be too much really.

if you do get an 8 string make sure it has decent pickups, i'd recommend the BKP Painkillers just cos theyre full of awesome. Lundgren are very nice from the clips i've heard but haven't had a chance to play a guitar with them installed
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#17
Quote by shredftw
you've already stated this......

ENGL Invader or SE
6505 may work well, they can be pretty tight with a boost to tighten it up more
Deizel Herbert

most of the 8 string stuff i've seen tho is using an Axe-fx and it does sound pretty good, personally i liked this video with the Deizel Einstein more tho but thats my preference, it has a lot of low end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKxJG0p45Ek

im not gonna say any recto for once because i can imagine that the low end of a recto plus the 8 string would be too much really.

if you do get an 8 string make sure it has decent pickups, i'd recommend the BKP Painkillers just cos theyre full of awesome. Lundgren are very nice from the clips i've heard but haven't had a chance to play a guitar with them installed



I second the ENGL.

I dont see why a Recto shouldnt work though.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfrKlLCx2HU
I think its an older two channel recto.....

Quote by kylendm
Well yeah you have to get a power amp but I'm just saying.

God when did the forum start getting raided by fags who think they know everything.



Sorry if I sounded a little offensivel, but you put the Axe under "heads" in your reply. It looked rather misleading.
Last edited by GS LEAD 5 at Mar 27, 2011,
#18
Quote by kylendm
Well yeah you have to get a power amp but I'm just saying.

God when did the forum start getting raided by fags who think they know everything.

When did it stop?
#19
Any amp you please. The only thing you have to worry is the bass response of the amp/speaker/pickups. Aside from that, it's all about your taste. Shit, I play a 7 string tuned down to F through a Sovtek Mig-50, and up until a few weeks ago, I used a Bugera 2x12 and it handled it fine.
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#20
Quote by shaggydogJV
Any amp you please. The only thing you have to worry is the bass response of the amp/speaker/pickups. Aside from that, it's all about your taste. Shit, I play a 7 string tuned down to F through a Sovtek Mig-50, and up until a few weeks ago, I used a Bugera 2x12 and it handled it fine.


i kinda second this. Any amp should work totally fine, but Ive found on some amps it can be quite hard to keep punchiness and sharpness when you play some of the lower stuff. Grab an eq though and just the super lows out a bit and it'll sound fine
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#21
Quote by GS LEAD 5
And the Axe is a pre amp.

I know what the Axe is, I'm a dealer for them

It's kind of implied that when you say Axe-FX, you mean an Axe-FX rig


Quote by kylendm
Well yeah you have to get a power amp but I'm just saying.

God when did the forum start getting raided by fags who think they know everything.

+1 dude, that's why I haven't posted much lately.
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Last edited by MatrixClaw at Mar 27, 2011,