#1
Hi guys,

I have a friend, and he's considering of buying a head and cabinet. but he can chose between a 2x12" or a 4x12" and he asked me what would be the best but i didn't know. So maybe there's somebody of you who can help me. everybody who knows anything that could help and will post it is awesome

thanks alot
Tijl

oh btw, it's all Marshall
#2
The 4x12 of course is bigger and louder sounding. Sometimes that is worse like in small rooms where it is just too much volume. Also you have to consider price per quality. I'd personally rather have a good quality 2x12 then a lower quality 4x12 (like Behringer, B52,etc).
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#3
2x12 if he doesn't gig much, but even then a 2x12 can be just as nice if you get a good quality one. The main reason being not having to lug around a 4x12 to and from a gig.

Personally I'd get a 2x12 and turn it on its side (so it sits on the short side and stands taller) when at a gig, and at home lay it on its longer side.
#4
I own 2 4x12s and a 2x12 - Go with a nice high quality 2x12 unless you can afford the same quality in a 4x12, and don't mind having to move a giant box around if it needs to go anywhere.
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#5
if you have the money sace and transportation for a good 4x12 then go for that by all means, but if your budget, space and/or transportation methods are limited then get a decent 2x12
#6
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The 4x12 of course is bigger and louder sounding. Sometimes that is worse like in small rooms where it is just too much volume. Also you have to consider price per quality. I'd personally rather have a good quality 2x12 then a lower quality 4x12 (like Behringer, B52,etc).


A 412 is NOT louder than a 212. The 4 speakers just move more air than the 212 (obviously) resulting in a "fuller" sound with a little bit of added low end.
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#7
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A 412 is NOT louder than a 212. The 4 speakers just move more air than the 212 (obviously) resulting in a "fuller" sound with a little bit of added low end.


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#9
2x12 and angle/elevate it.

Job done.
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#10
Quote by DroptuneD
A 412 is NOT louder than a 212. The 4 speakers just move more air than the 212 (obviously) resulting in a "fuller" sound with a little bit of added low end.


I'll agree to disagree. It's really not worth arguing about. I googled it and there's a shit ton of threads you can read on this. The majority agree a 4x12 sounds louder but its one of those perennial endless debates and IMO a 4x12 is louder.
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I'll agree to disagree. It's really not worth arguing about. I googled it and there's a shit ton of threads you can read on this. The majority agree a 4x12 sounds louder but its one of those perennial endless debates and IMO a 4x12 is louder.

It's perceived as being louder because it's moving more air.
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#13
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It's perceived as being louder because it's moving more air.


Yup and perception of being louder is the same as being louder since loudness is a perceived/subjective concept anyway.

If you want to talk about the closest objective measurement then it would be sound pressure level which I believe that if I'm not mistaken, when more air moves, sound pressure level increases and thus it is "louder."

But anyway, this gets really nerdy really fast.
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#14
Being perceived as louder is what's important since it matters what people hear, not what a dbl meter tells you. I do, however, support the use of a 2x12 unless you really need a 4x12.
#15
Quote by rawkandrowl
Yup and perception of being louder is the same as being louder since loudness is a perceived/subjective concept anyway.

If you want to talk about the closest objective measurement then it would be sound pressure level which I believe that if I'm not mistaken, when more air moves, sound pressure level increases and thus it is "louder."

But anyway, this gets really nerdy really fast.

Sure, but it also depends on the cab.

I've had 2x12 cabs that are A LOT louder than 4x12s. It depends on the design of the cab and the speakers in it.
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