#1
I've been a long time lurker of the UG forums, and figured I would ask your advice on upgrading my equipment. Based on things I've read I know that these aren't the most enticing threads on the site, but I did a lot of searching around the forums beforehand and nothing seemed to answer my specific question.

Basically, right now I have pretty terrible equipment. I had a Squier stratocaster for about a year, when a drunk girl thought it would be cool to "act like jimi hendrix" and cracked the neck whilst swinging it around her neck. So now I'm playing a First Act guitar that I got for free from a friend I know at a Volkswagen dealership. Apparently they had some sort of promotion giving away guitars? Most advice I've seen is for the Gibson ES series, but from what I've gathered, they are out of my price range.

The amp I'm currently using isn't anything great either. Its a Fender G-Dec Junior and I'm not sure If buying a new guitar would be beneficial with that amp. Would the better tone I get from the new guitar be lost in a below average amp?

My budget is realistically 700-800, but could pull together 1000 if the benefit from the extra money would be worth it. I've been playing for a couple years and I play mostly blues, love the sounds/tone of Freddie King and Albert King. Thanks guys and sorry for the long post.
#2
for 700-800 you can get a tremendous blues set up.

my honest recommendation would be buy USED because you can get way better stuff.

Get a MIM Fender Strat and buy a Fender Blues Junior. Then throw in a Overdrive pedal (not distortion pedal) and bam you have arrived at blues.com

EDIT: with the way the market is you can actually get American Strats for $500USD, and a blues jr for around 300.
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#7
Thanks guys, you're helping a lot. Loved the semi-hollow suggestions, trying to get away from the stratocaster body.

As a rule of thumb would you say that it is better to spend more on the amp than the guitar? I don't have a lot of gear buying experience, obviously.
#8
I would say spend more on the amp, because I think that's where most of your sound comes from.

I don't own that Peavey guitar, but a local mom and pop near me stocks it. I have seen and played several different ones in the shop and it is an amazing guitar for the money. Hence my suggesting it.

If you can find a used Viking like Hansolo recommended, that is an awesome guitar too.

I think washburn used to make a kickin semi that was relatively cheap too.
#9
I've been looking into both the Viking and the Peavey JF-1. Leaning more towards the Viking, but I have one more question.

Most of these links are to musicians friend. Is that a trusted site for buying equipment online? Would you trust sites like ebay and amazon? What would you recommend for getting used equipment?
#10
it depends on what part of the planet you are on. the used stuff from GC has some very good deals and you have a return period if somethings amiss. also criagslist can cough up some sick deals. but not really an option if you are in bejing.
#11
Oh right. I should have mentioned I live in the US... Massachusetts to be more specific.
#12
there are strats and hollowbodys galore but heres a bunch of blues jrs

USED AT GC IN N. ATTLEBORO
SOLIDBODY ELECTRIC
USED JIMMIE VAUGHAN STRAT
Guitar Center North Attleboro
North Attleboro, Massachusetts 02760
508-399-0000
Distance: 32 miles
$450

and i wouldn't limit myself to just the blues jr, it's a good amp but not for everyone obviously. try one.

they also have used marshall class 5 amps for $270-300. another good option.
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#13
As for an amp: the Peavey Delta Blues 210 is a good American made blues amp, plus its price is within reach (my dad owns one). It will give you a good blues sound straight outta the box, but it sounds incredibly better with a preamp tube and speaker swap, if you are willing to pay extra money for them.

My dad swapped the preamp tubes with 2 Tung Sol 12ax7's and one 5751, and the speakers with Weber Blue Pup and Silver Bell 10" speakers. It sounds amazing (for a blues tone, I'm more of a metal person).
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Quote by gregs1020
they also have used marshall class 5 amps for $270-300. another good option.


This. So much this. It might be a bit warmer a tone than you're looking for but I'd be bold-faced lying if I told you that it wasn't a beautiful sounding amp.
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#16
Quote by androidred0100
This. So much this. It might be a bit warmer a tone than you're looking for but I'd be bold-faced lying if I told you that it wasn't a beautiful sounding amp.


i would have to dissagree with any and all marshall class 5 recommendations. i think this is up there with the worst amps marshall puts out. im kinda a marshall guy too, i have two marshalls and specifically have the amp that this amp is apparently trying to copy. i strongly ENCOURAGE you to try it out though.

for blues though this is way too one dimensional. there is no such thing as clean tone and it gets way too harsh and high settings.

if you are looking for an 'affordable' semi hollow/hollow body i would stick to brands who have really had a lot of experience in making them.

check out gretsch and epiphone (casino, sheraton, 335)
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Quote by thejester
i would have to dissagree with any and all marshall class 5 recommendations. i think this is up there with the worst amps marshall puts out. im kinda a marshall guy too, i have two marshalls and specifically have the amp that this amp is apparently trying to copy. i strongly ENCOURAGE you to try it out though.

for blues though this is way too one dimensional. there is no such thing as clean tone and it gets way too harsh and high settings.

if you are looking for an 'affordable' semi hollow/hollow body i would stick to brands who have really had a lot of experience in making them.

check out gretsch and epiphone (casino, sheraton, 335)


When I played one I got some really nice clean tones. This video also shows, that there are clean tones.

In fact, I found it to be pretty much the opposite of everything you've just said
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#18
Quote by SimplyBen
When I played one I got some really nice clean tones. This video also shows, that there are clean tones.

In fact, I found it to be pretty much the opposite of everything you've just said


thats not a blues clean though. thats having a tube amp at 1/10. no break up, terrible tone. i will respect your opinion if you like that tone but there is absolutely no warmth to that sound
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#19
If you wanna play blues I'd suggest the telecaster.

Guitar center's used gear section has some awesome deals on them.

But yeah like the others said buy used that way you can get better quality stuff for a lower price.

If you want a mexiacan strat look for one from the 90s. They pop up in pawnshops from time to time for around 350ish
#20
Quote by reggaebassman
If you wanna play blues I'd suggest the telecaster.

Guitar center's used gear section has some awesome deals on them.

But yeah like the others said buy used that way you can get better quality stuff for a lower price.

If you want a mexiacan strat look for one from the 90s. They pop up in pawnshops from time to time for around 350ish


Gotta agree here.
I must have tried over 50 Strats before I found one I liked.
I found it in a small music store in Sparks, Nevada for $350.
It's a 1996 MIM with rosewood fretboard. Plays and sounds great.
I have since put some Texas specials in it.
Sounds awesome through my AC30.
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#21
Quote by CodeMonk
Gotta agree here.
I must have tried over 50 Strats before I found one I liked.
I found it in a small music store in Sparks, Nevada for $350.
It's a 1996 MIM with rosewood fretboard. Plays and sounds great.
I have since put some Texas specials in it.
Sounds awesome through my AC30.


he stated he is not big on strats and is looking for a semi hollow
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#22
Real blues is about the emotion, not the gear

Personally.... (edited because you're not into Strats and I just noticed that)

Epiphone Casino or Dot. Get a single channel amp and an OD pedal. That's all you really need. Try a Fender Blues Jr, Vox AC15, Orange Tiny Terror combo (sounds better than the head IMO), Fender Vibrolux (used)...

There's a bunch of great options out there. Since most blue tone comes from overdriven tube amps, I'll stand by that you should be looking for low wattage single channel amps.
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#23
Quote by stratman_13
Real blues is about the emotion, not the gear

Personally.... (edited because you're not into Strats and I just noticed that)

Epiphone Casino or Dot. Get a single channel amp and an OD pedal. That's all you really need. Try a Fender Blues Jr, Vox AC15, Orange Tiny Terror combo (sounds better than the head IMO), Fender Vibrolux (used)...

There's a bunch of great options out there. Since most blue tone comes from overdriven tube amps, I'll stand by that you should be looking for low wattage single channel amps.



TS. im telling ya, this guy speaks the truth. i think the orange TT is way too much gain for blues but as stated that blues jr, a ts9 or 808 and you are golden. look no further
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#24
A Vox AC15 would be a nice off-the-beaten-Fender-path amp. I think people can be a bit too one-dimensional when thinking about blues rigs. Hell, I play blues with a PRS and a Boogie Mark IV.
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#26
Quote by gregs1020
or an ampeg jet...

I always forget about the Jet series. Awesome amps.
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#27
When I tried it I thought the Peavey Classic 30 wasn't too bad for a warm blues tone
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