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#1
Dear UGers,

My musical taste changed and I don't like the scooped sound of my EMG 85/81 anymore.

Therefore I am on a new quest for pickups, and I want to get Gibson or Duncan pickups (no other suggestions please, I am very ignorant about brands )


My goals of sound:
Neck pickup:
Smooth, fat, clear and very open ( I like mids and dynamics)

Bridge pickup:
same as neck, but with a bit more output and highs.

The guitar is an Epiphone Explorer.

My own ideas:
SD SH1, SH2, SH4 or seth lover

Please come with suggestions and WHY!
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#5
Quote by KLanh
I'm somewhat on the same boat, thinking of going passive and something a little more versatile.

I've been thinking of getting an SH4 (JB) & SH2 (Jazz) combo.

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#6
As for the blackouts: I dont play metal anymore so no actives for me. I want a bit like the classic rock tone, I get the tone with the EMGs, but it feels lifeless and does not sparkle!
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#7
I'd look at some Gibson Dirty Fingers. Those things put out a tone that's like sex
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#8
Yo, Burstbuckers... Im thinking about getting some Burstbuckers for my Dean, and swap a bridge pickup on one of my Guitars with a Burstbucker
#9
Do what KLanh said or a SD JB/'59 combo
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#10
id suggest maybe trying the 18v mod just to see if you like it any better. you never know you may love it with the 18v mod. it will definitly help with the complaints your having, and its not expensive to try.

the jb and jazz combo is a good one and you will like that quite a bit. the jb is probably as hot as your gonna wanna get. also look into a screamin demon or a '59.
#11
Would the Alnico II pickup serve me well?

I am looking for something with a lot of touch and colour with a lot of breathing room to articulate.
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#12
well, active doesnt always mean high output, it can also mean a preamp is in use so you can EQ your sound. However I would Look at Lindy Fralin or Jason Lollard Pickups, what style of music do you play now.
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#13
Sorry this may not be what you are looking for, but maybe upgrade the guitar rather than the pickups to start? Epiphone is a decent instrument it's not going to be your "forever" guitar. If you like the Epiphone a Gibson with stock pickups to start will probably get you what you're looking for until you decide to upgrade to some sexy pickups like Bare Knuckle or Duncans. All this, of course, assumes you have a decent amp.
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#14
Sounds like what you need is a set of PRS Tremonti pickups.

I'm selling my LP Prophecy pretty much for the same reason you're looking for new pickups.
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#15
Check out the PAF thread going on right now. No need for me to parrot what I've already said.
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#16
Dimarzio Breed in the neck, you pretty much described it perfectly. Could match it with another Breed in the bridge or maybe a Norton. Have a listen to the amp clips in my profile, that's a mahogany Iceman with Breeds so pretty close to your Explorer.
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#17
Hi it won't let me send you a pm from my iPod touch. But I wanted to ask you if you would sell your emgs.
#18
i went from emg's to 59/JB and never looked back. Gain loss wasn't really noticeable.
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#19
Thanks for all your advise!

I currently love sounds like 80s rock. I want an open basic vintage sound, but it should be smooth and fat but the "OPEN" and organic part is REALLY important!

I also thought of BareKnuckles but there are so much models I dont have a clue what to get, and all descriptions sound whow! :P

What are the bareknuckle equivalents of an SD '59, Sh2 and SH4?
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Last edited by RMB at Apr 1, 2011,
#20
Quote by RMB
Thanks for all your advise!

I currently love sounds like 80s rock. I want an open basic vintage sound, but it should be smooth and fat but the "OPEN" and organic part is REALLY important!


I also thought of BareKnuckles but there are so much models I dont have a clue what to get, and all descriptions sound whow! :P

What are the bareknuckle equivalents of an SD '59, Sh2 and SH4?

again you're pretty much describing the Breeds
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#21
How dare you ask us to compare BKP with SD's! Nah I'm kidding, but if you can afford BKP's then e-mail them giving them your question and they'll recommend the right pick up
#22
Quote by 3volved
Sounds like what you need is a set of PRS Tremonti pickups.

I'm selling my LP Prophecy pretty much for the same reason you're looking for new pickups.


how much ya looking for for the prophecy?

Also, I have the 59/jb combo and emg 81/60 in the same guitars.

The EMG combo really is pretty dynamic to be honest, I really like the 60.

The JB/59 are greatttt though. Definitely a bit less output, but the bridge pickup does a solid all around job as a distortion pickup, you get nice cleans from the 59, as well as chunky rythms.

I personally do not like the EMG 85, gonna try putting it in the bridge someday and see if thats any better.
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#23
Thanks for the advise seagull, but reviews say the breed is a bit muddy!
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#24
Quote by RMB
Thanks for the advise seagull, but reviews say the breed is a bit muddy!

I think you need to pay less attention to "reviews"...do they sound muddy in my clips?
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#25
I've never heard 'muddy' and 'breed' in the same sentence. It's supposed to be a great distortion pup. But honestly, for a good low cost option, the JB/59 can't go wrong. Get 'em used if you can, as the new price is a little out of whack.
#26
get wcr fillmores. especially if you want something with a lot of mids, they have mids in spades...

i have them in a les paul right now, they should be right up your alley

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=6572910 (of all the clips on the net, that's the one that really captures what they sound like the most)
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#27
I listened clips of bareknuckles and the VHII stuns me!!

Is there a cheaper dimarzio/gibson/duncan which has the same characteristics?
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#28
I really appreciate the fact that you seem to be completely ignoring my advice simply because of what you've read in reviews and what you've already decided you want.

Buy whatever you want, I'm out.
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#29
I listened to your clips seagull, but it just did not sound like the sound I am after! Just didn't post it here, sorry for that
And all clips on youtube about the breed are metal.
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Last edited by RMB at Apr 1, 2011,
#31
Maybe a SD SH-5/SH-1. That's my personal favorite passive combo anyway. I find the JB to be very generic sounding, and not really "great" at anything, just a good all 'rounder.
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#32
Quote by RMB
I want a bit like the classic rock tone, I get the tone with the EMGs, but it feels lifeless and does not sparkle!


Then you'll be wanting PAFs, or slightly hotter wound PAFs depending on how overdriven you want to get.

If you're really going to limit yourself to those brands then you'll have a harder time something that suits you just right.
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#33
Quote by crice6505
However I would Look at Lindy Fralin or Jason Lollar Pickups, what style of music do you play now?

I am going for Lollar Imperials with coil tap for my Les Paul...
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#34
for the bridge i'd close on a seymour JB
as for the neck, eigther a jazz or a '59 i believe the jazz is sh-2 and '59 is sh-1. i have the jazz in my gibson les paul's neck and the '59 in my charvel san dimas' neck. overall i love the tone of the '59 in my san dimas better i haven't yet tried the '59 in my les paul but the '59 sounds better to me.
#35
Quote by RMB
I listened to your clips seagull, but it just did not sound like the sound I am after! Just didn't post it here, sorry for that
And all clips on youtube about the breed are metal.

Fair enough then dude, got the impression that you were disimissing it out of hand...I'm kinda surprised you didn't like the tone as for me they nail classic rock tones, I bought them on the recommendation of the UK Dimarzio rep a few years ago, he steered me away from the Super Distortion for that particular guitar.

Duncan Custom 5 might do it for you in the bridge if we're talking hotter PAF tones, or a Pearly Gates if you don't want something as hot as the Custom 5. Pearly Gates certainly has plenty of top end zing and sparkle.
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#36
Thanks for all the recommendations! The SH5 sounds interesting too!

What about the slash pickups?
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#37
a bit meh to be honest, not particularly exciting and can be a little bland without the right rig.
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#38
Okay thanks, because in clips they sound very warm and "Les-pauly"^^
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#40
^ Probably. Although through a Spider III everything will sound pretty much the same on the gainier channels anyway. Might be able to hear the differences using cleans depending on how transparent it is.

A pickup swap without an amp that allows for tonal variation is always a bad investment.
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