#1
I'll start off with pictures:








Now for the reviews

The head:
As you can see, it is an ENGL Blackmore 100. 4 channel amp with more gain than anyone needs, yet still has a very clear and spanky clean channel. I'm undecided on if I like CH3 or CH4 better.
CH3 is more of the hot-rodded marshall sound, where as CH4 is just the over-the-top super saturated/smooth ENGL tone. This amp is really awesome. I'm a firm believer in boosting, and this amp doesn't even need to be boosted. Saying that, CH4 with a boost gave me one of the tightest, smoothest, most pissed off tones I've ever heard.
I'm undecided on if I like the 6505+ or Blackmore more. I think they both serve their own purpose, and can't really be compared. I'm waiting to get an AB/Y to run them stereo.


Now for the cab:
It's a Son Set Beach Custom 6x12. It's setup to be a 4x12 with a 2x12 on top.
The speaker arrangements are:
2x12 - WGS Retro 30s
4x12 - WGS Vet 30/ET65 X-Pattern

I'm 100% undecided on which speaker setup I like more, they're both sick. One thing I LOVE about this cab and speakers is that there is absolutely 0 harshness/ice picky highs. I've struggled with trying to fight off the harsh highs with V30s for close to two years now with multiple cabs.
This cab ways a TON, but coming from an oversized Mesa 4x12 in a live-in ATA case, it's actually lighter by a good amount.
If anyone is struggling with getting rid of the harshness they have in their rig, I can not stress enough HOW MUCH the WGS speakers helped me while still having an awesome, clear, tight sound.
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#2
Ah, HNAD dude

Engl Amps are teh Sex!

I just saw a Savage60 yesterday on ebay for like 800€ and was seriously considering to plunder my college funds for it.

Clipzorz?

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#5
Quote by OrangeWalls
Ah, HNAD dude

Engl Amps are teh Sex!

I just saw a Savage60 yesterday on ebay for like 800€ and was seriously considering to plunder my college funds for it.

Clipzorz?


Thanks man!

I ended up getting this one for a steal at $900 shipped USD. Considering they go for $1100+ all day, I'd say I did pretty well.

And sorry, not clips. I unfortunately don't have any type of recording setup.


Edit;
WtrPlyr, it's really not too bad. The stairs to my basement weren't very fun, but like I said, it's a good bit lighter than my Mesa 4x12 in a live-in case was.
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Last edited by BryanFTWL at Apr 4, 2011,
#7
Quote by Tom 1.0
Wow.

Lucky Bastard.


Man, a year ago I was looking at rigs like this and thinking the same thing. Really all I've done is flipped gear for profit a good bit, and save up little by little from each paycheck.
I'm talking like $20 from each pay.
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#8
I just sold my epic rig

Major jealous, epic setup mate.

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#9
Why on earth would you do that?
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#12
Going to any clips on that engl and cab mate?

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#13
If I ever get around to picking up a recording setup. I have some other gear related items I need to take care of first though.
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#14
I love the matte finish on that guitar, compliments the setup very nicely. You get points for style man, I still want to know more about that Schecter. Totally digging the whole cab setup though.
#15
Quote by sk8m8trix
I love the matte finish on that guitar, compliments the setup very nicely. You get points for style man, I still want to know more about that Schecter. Totally digging the whole cab setup though.

Thanks man!
When I get my EC-600 back from being swirled, it will match even more.
Here's an example shot the guy I have doing it sent me:



And before anyone asks why swirl a 600 series LTD.
It's a 25.5" scale Eclipse shape with one volume and a killswitch. Basically my dream setup considering the Eclipse shape is my favorite shape, and that I sold off my old Eclipse I CTM and EC-500 due to them being 24.75".
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#16
Awesome man! I just got rid of my Savage, it was a beast though. Channels 3 and 4 were where it was at.

From what I hear, the voicing was really close with the Blackmore and Savage. I'm sure they will sound amazing in stereo... I ran my Fireball 60 and Savage in stereo and it was pure sex. The sound was so huge.

The savage sounded best through my vader 2x12 IMO. I had some trouble getting it dialed in with V30s. The vader was straight brutal.
/rig
#17
Quote by mespinos
Awesome man! I just got rid of my Savage, it was a beast though. Channels 3 and 4 were where it was at.

From what I hear, the voicing was really close with the Blackmore and Savage. I'm sure they will sound amazing in stereo... I ran my Fireball 60 and Savage in stereo and it was pure sex. The sound was so huge.

The savage sounded best through my vader 2x12 IMO. I had some trouble getting it dialed in with V30s. The vader was straight brutal.

Yes sir, the Blackmore is based off the Savage with a tad more of a vintage feel. However, CH4 doesn't seem to have a vintage feel at all to it.

What made you decide to sell your Savage? If you don't mind.
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#18
Nice man, it's your guitar, swirl the shit out of it if it pleases you.

I just get a hard-on for matte finishes though, that's why I love my Ibanez RG, gotta switch out the stock pickups for something higher output though, it's not punk rock enough for my taste, I even blocked up the tremolo arm just cause. (Yes, I really will buy and play a guitar just cause it's pretty and cheap, sue me)

Post pics after the swirl is done.
#19
Quote by sk8m8trix
Nice man, it's your guitar, swirl the shit out of it if it pleases you.

I just get a hard-on for matte finishes though, that's why I love my Ibanez RG, gotta switch out the stock pickups for something higher output though, it's not punk rock enough for my taste, I even blocked up the tremolo arm just cause. (Yes, I really will buy and play a guitar just cause it's pretty and cheap, sue me)

Post pics after the swirl is done.

What amp are you playing through? A lower output pickup will give you a lot more definition and clarity. And really, super high output pickups aren't needed with the over-the-top high gain amps out there now-a-days.
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#20
that cab looks pretty sweeet

never tried a Blackmore, but from everything i've heard they're full of awesome

HNGD dude
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#21
Quote by shredftw
that cab looks pretty sweeet

never tried a Blackmore, but from everything i've heard they're full of awesome

HNGD dude

Thanks!
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#22
I usually play through my Fender Mustang II, I could never move up to buying a full cab and setup like that, I usually just use a lot of modulation effects and high treble to get that ear piercing annoying as shit sound I want, I think with some active EMG's I could probably get that same tone with less gain and not notice that annoying buzz. If I were to buy anything new I'd probably go with a Marshal amp combo, one of my friends has one and I can get just the tone I want on it with no issues.
#23
Quote by Tom 1.0
Life

Should've sold your body instead.

DON'T PANIC! DON'T PANIC!
THEY DON'T LIKE IT UP 'EM!
#24
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Should've sold your body instead.



You wouldn't say that if you have seen my body

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#25
Quote by Tom 1.0
I just sold my epic rig

Major jealous, epic setup mate.
Has the injury to your hand finally got to you?

On a lighter note, confrabulations, TS, that is a very nice looking set-up. 6x12's are epic for teh doomz.
#26
Quote by Tom 1.0
You wouldn't say that if you have seen my body


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#27
awesome, love the blackmore

nice name for a cab too
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#31
Quote by GS LEAD 5
AWESOME!

One question.
Wont a 4 channel amp have more knobs?


nah shared eq over the 4 channels, and only two gain knobs (iirc)
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#32
HNAD

ET65s ftw!


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all those years playing xbox and eating cookies?
#33
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You wouldn't say that if you have seen my body

You're blond and British. You can get any American girl you want, Tom.
#35
Quote by BryanFTWL
Yes sir, the Blackmore is based off the Savage with a tad more of a vintage feel. However, CH4 doesn't seem to have a vintage feel at all to it.

What made you decide to sell your Savage? If you don't mind.



All 4 channels pretty much sounded the same with slightly different voicings and different gain structures.. I just wanted variety I could only get out of a multi-head setup.

I would have either had to spend a ton of money on getting the setup w/ the versatility I wanted or trade my savage for an Axe-FX setup.. Which I did
/rig
#36
Sweet setup, youve got like 1000 tones to choose from!

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#37
Quote by GS LEAD 5
Wont that cut live usability like hell?


nah not really... i mean each channel has a different voicing.

but it's still a compromise over separate eq, definitely.
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#38
Quote by Dave_Mc
nah not really... i mean each channel has a different voicing.

but it's still a compromise over separate eq, definitely.

This.

The only thing I would really change is if it had 4 separate gain knobs.
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#39
Quote by gregs1020

all those years playing xbox and eating cookies?



No


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