#1
Alright guys, I'll follow the formula.

Budget? - ~$200

Genres? - I play mostly classic rock. I need a good clean with my guitar turned down, but the highest gain song in our set is probably Working Man, and the rest of the songs are around AC/DC or Led Zeppelin amount of gain.

New or Used? - I think I would prefer new, but used is absolutely fine as long as the tubes don't need replacing.

Home or Gig? - I'm going to be playing with a whole band: singer, drums, bass, and another guitarist with a Marshall half-stack.

Closest City? - Raleigh, NC

Current Gear? - Right now I have a 65W Rogue combo amp. It's nothing special, but it gets the job done and is loud enough to play a party right now given our current equipment.

I really wanted an Epiphone Valve Jr, but they seem to be discontinued and impossible to find. The Kustom Defender looks equivalent, and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about it. I wanted a really simple tube amp, and this seems about as simple as it gets. If it can hang for a while, then I'm sure this is what I want, but I want to know if it's good quality.
#2
nice dude i live just inside durham. go NC. but alot of people actually like the defender for classic rock, i havnt played it but most people ive talked that have say say it is great for that sort of thing.
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#3
Look for a used Jet City 20 watt. Preferably the combo since you wont have to buy a cab + head that way

or one of the peavey classics.
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#4
Do you have FX, Stomp boxes? If not you need to put another $100-$200 with that to get a Diecent Gigable amp. And no offence, but if you are giging, you are gonna need at lest 2 ch's if you don't use any pedals. Do you have a Speaker cab? because you can get a small wattage head for relitively cheep new, under $250.
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Do you have FX, Stomp boxes? If not you need to put another $100-$200 with that to get a Diecent Gigable amp. And no offence, but if you are giging, you are gonna need at lest 2 ch's if you don't use any pedals. Do you have a Speaker cab? because you can get a small wattage head for relitively cheep new, under $250.

Bullshit. I gigged for a year with nothing but a Les Paul and a single channel JCM 800.
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Bullshit. I gigged for a year with nothing but a Les Paul and a single channel JCM 800.

I'm saying this because "most" people don't use the vol knob to clean up there sound, they rely on a pedal or second ch
#7
Has a surprising amount of headroom for a 5w amp, I dimed it and it actually stayed clean with humbuckers. Had this really nice natural breakup.

However.

It didn't take distortion pedals well. Everything I tried into it had this high-end fizz on it. Overdrive pedals might work better. Also it won't be audible over a drummer unmic'd.

Verdict? Good sounding amp but the aforementioned Jet City might be a better choice.

Edit: I'm also hearing really good things about the VHT Special 6.
Last edited by papersun87 at Apr 8, 2011,
#8
Thanks everyone, this is all really helpful.

So papersun, do you think any 5W amp like this or the Valve Jr would be loud enough in a band situation? If not, what would be a good minimum wattage to shoot for?
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Thanks everyone, this is all really helpful.

So papersun, do you think any 5W amp like this or the Valve Jr would be loud enough in a band situation? If not, what would be a good minimum wattage to shoot for?


5 watts most likely will not be audible in a band scenario.

although if using a speaker with a very high sensitivity rating (10Xdb+) you may be able to hear yourself and another band member may be able to hear you, but a croud would not be able to.

how do i know, i run my orange at 7.5 sometimes. and pushing four V30's or 2V30's and 2GB's i can hear myself and another musician can hear me, but that is in a 14'x14' room, with a lot of hard surfaces.
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#11
As of right now, we aren't miking anything, so I'll take your word for it, both of you, that 5W wouldn't be able to hold up.

But as I said before, I have a 65W solid-state combo that holds up fine. I don't know the relative volumes of tube watts vs. solid-state watts, and I know it depends on a lot of factors, but what would this be equivalent to in a tube amp? (I'm guessing around 15-20 based on papersun's earlier response, but I just wanted to clarify what I know is audible over the band)