#1
i recently bought a new set of elixirs for my acoustic guitar, I did not want to change any of the action/intonation settings on the guitar itself so I made sure to get the most similar set of strings in terms of gage size. (my guitar originally came with elixirs i just dont know which ones)

ever since the installation of the strings I feel like the action has raised a little bit, I am guessing this is due to higher string tension since the strings are newer?

should i adjust it or wait till the strings relieve some of the tension over time?
Last edited by chris4355 at Apr 8, 2011,
#2
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No. The action's just the height of the strings away from the guitar/fingerboard/frets, and changing strings doesn't raise it. (Actually, few things will raise the action on an acoustic, except, say, shimming up or replacing the saddle.)

If the strings feel like they have more tension, you might have bought a heavier gauge. Most acoustic guitars come with light gauge (.012); what gauge did you buy?

This. While going from a light gauge to a heavy gauge may appear to change the action on the higher frets, what is really changing is the relief of the neck. Heavier gauge strings exert more force on the neck and can cause the neck to slightly pull forward. The bowing of the neck is referred to as the relief of a guitar.
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#3
Quote by Chad48309
This. While going from a light gauge to a heavy gauge may appear to change the action on the higher frets, what is really changing is the relief of the neck. Heavier gauge strings exert more force on the neck and can cause the neck to slightly pull forward. The bowing of the neck is referred to as the relief of a guitar.


so theres a chance the action is higher because the neck is bowed?
#4
Quote by chris4355
so theres a chance the action is higher because the neck is bowed?

Again, that's not actually action. Action is the distance from the strings to the fretboard controlled by the height of the nut and the saddle. What is taking place during bowing is that the base of the neck is staying in place while the top of the neck is bending forward, technically raising the strings slightly on the higher frets. This does not happen all the time though for various reasons, and should not be used as a judge of neck relief. Your relief must be measured by laying a straightedge across frets and judged visually. If you wish to adjust your action across the fretboard, changing the height of the nut changes the height of strings on the first frets, and changing the height of the saddle changes the height of strings on the last frets.

For more information, please see here: http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/repair/acoustic-guitar/action.php

While action can be influenced by relief, action should typically be adjusted by individual measurements based on the nut and saddle.

In short, true action is never relief, but relief can have an impact on action.
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Last edited by Chad48309 at Apr 8, 2011,
#6
you could be using heavier gauge of strings. you could have the same gauge strings but they could be hex core instead of round core. they could have thinner or thicker material near where they go into the guitar. they could be made of a different alloy that's less flexible. all these things could cause the strings to be stiffer, resulting in what could feel like higher action without necessarily changing the action at all. i find some strings much easier to play than others - for example, dr rare pb's are always stiffer at the same gauge than a set of silk and steels, so they're harder to push down. for that matter, dr rares are stiffer than d'addario phosphor bronze.

or

your guitar could be kept at the wrong humidity, which could cause what seems like the action to change.

have you checked your neck relief as per frets.com?
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#7
ya i checked it, everything seems fine.

I think I accidently got a thicker gage. after playing for a couple of hours it just feels different, and the guitar sounds more deep. i kinda like it though so its ok.