#1
So I'm trying to decide between getting a new MIM Surf Green classic 50's strat with a maple fretboard and gigbag or a used MIA white strat with a rosewood fretboard and hardcase (I'll be replacing the pickups with the Gilmour EMGS). They both go for $700, but I'm a bit skeptical about buying a used strat since I've almost gotten ripped off before with a fake, but at the same time, it's an American crafted guitar (which is ironic because I'm hispanic lol). But I also prefer virgin guitars... Also, the green one has a V-neck, the white one has a modern C-neck. I've never tried the V-neck, but the modern C-neck cramps my hand after a while... common sense says I should go for a more comfortable guitar, but I'm willing to make the sacrifice for the strat/single-coil sound.

I can't decided between the colors either.. the surf green is so sweet, but the olympic white is timeless, and I love both the maple and rosewood fretboards on both colors... i wish I could just buy a guitar with each of those combinations... maybe someday =/

(and I've also considered resale value if the unfortunate day comes when I'd have to sell it because I can't find a job in this economy and I have to pay bills or something)

I might just have to save up another $300 for a new MIA white strat =P

any suggestions deciding?
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Last edited by cheeekens at Apr 11, 2011,
#3
'Merican. I personally like used cuz they're pre broken in. and its a nicer guitar, no doubt.
#4
Personally I would go with the new strat. Firstly because I love surf green! Secondly cos it's MIM. And thirdly, because it has a maple fretboard, which gives it more of a vintage fender look.
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#5
buying used at guitar center?
if so
i think they have like a policy or somethng that if it breaks cause it was abused b4 u bought it they fix it for free
PLUS
there are 100000000000000000 stipulations for selling your gear to GC
you have to prove that all aspects of the electronics work
blah blah blah
#7
yeah I'm buying used from guitar center.... I had a horrible experience with craigslist where some guy almost ripped me off... I suspected something wasn't right so I asked him if I could take off the pickguard just to verify the pickups, and he got all defensive and crazy. So if I buy from GC it should be a legit Fender? The guitar looks like it's in good condition, olympic white with rosewood fretboard, and I'll be putting the gilmour EMGs... I do love that surf green though.. maybe someday I can save up the $1600 for a custom shop surf green strat

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-American-Vintage--57-Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar-100277062-i1146241.gc

it's like a guitar and a cone of mint chip had a baby... *drools*
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Last edited by cheeekens at Apr 11, 2011,
#8
MIA doesn't mean shit. I've found atrocious MIA strats that make your vanilla MIM look like God. Judge the guitar based on its own merits. Geography has nothing to do with whether a guitar will be good or bad.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#9
if you buy it from GC and by some odd chance it turns out to be fake they will take it back and refund your money. probably not a huge concern if buying it from them though.

new and shiny is nice but a great playing and sounding axe is better. try the american strat and see how it sounds and feels. if it doesn't speak to you then pass if you like it then go for it. i'd personally rather buy a guitar that i've played and know i like. either way good luck with your strat hunting. (i'm a strat guy myself)
#10
Yeah I know in the end I have to actually hold it in my hands and see how it feels; I know quality and feel can vary from guitar to guitar (regardless of country of origin, etc), so there's nothing like playing what you're actually going to buy. I was just asking because it's a 4 hour drive to the closest guitar center selling the surf green guitar... if there would be any compelling reason to make the drive just to "test" the guitar, I'd do it, but I should try what's closer to me (the used MIA strat) and see how that goes. Thanks everyone! Yeah I've been on a strat quest for sometime now... I've gone though a few MIM and Asian-made strats, I guess it's time to step up to the good ol' US of A strats =)
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#11
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Yeah I know in the end I have to actually hold it in my hands and see how it feels; I know quality and feel can vary from guitar to guitar (regardless of country of origin, etc), so there's nothing like playing what you're actually going to buy. I was just asking because it's a 4 hour drive to the closest guitar center selling the surf green guitar... if there would be any compelling reason to make the drive just to "test" the guitar, I'd do it, but I should try what's closer to me (the used MIA strat) and see how that goes. Thanks everyone! Yeah I've been on a strat quest for sometime now... I've gone though a few MIM and Asian-made strats, I guess it's time to step up to the good ol' US of A strats =)

Hey man, that's all on you. I really can't tell you how far you should go to make sure the guitar you're getting is "the one," you know? That's really subjective.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#12
It's pretty simple. If the MIA is in good conditon, go with that. If it's not, get an MIM or keep looking for another second hand MIA that is alright.
#13
You could always try the MIM in a different color at the store that has the MIA. A white MIA strat just sounds sexy though.
#14
yeah... I did think of trying the MIM in a different color too... but after thinking about it, I've owned a lot of different strats, but never a MIA strat, so I think I'll try one out and if it feels like sex, I'm getting it =)
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#15
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yeah... I did think of trying the MIM in a different color too... but after thinking about it, I've owned a lot of different strats, but never a MIA strat, so I think I'll try one out and if it feels like sex, I'm getting it =)

Good luck, man. Keep us posted.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#16
ya... gonna go check it after work today... I've had some Gilmour EMGs sitting around for a while now, and I'm so eager to drop them into a deserving strat... at one point they were in my squier and MIM strats, and they sounded beautiful, really clean and glassy, but the necks were uncomfortable... can't wait; olympic white with rosewood fretboard and a white pearloid pickguard, but I think I'll be switching it to a tortoise red pickguard soon... sweet =)
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#17
I've noticed a HUGE difference between my MIM and MIA strats. It's almost no comparison. But like Chad said, just because it's made in the USA doesn't mean you won't find a lemon here or there. Gotta try it first. But if it feels like a solid buy, MIA 100%.
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#18
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I think I'll be switching it to a tortoise red pickguard soon... sweet =)

Red toroise pickguard? You know what? You're alright.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#19
For what its worth, both mia and mim strats are made in the states, but the mim strats are sent to mexico to be finished. The main difference is likley going to be the quality wood used and hardware/pickups. I got a used mim strat from gc that rivals most mias ive played and looked gorgeous for cheap and threw in my own pickups and hardware to make an amazing strat. But you really have to play it first to know if its a good guitar to begin with.
Last edited by W4RP1G at Apr 12, 2011,
#20
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For what its worth, both mia and mim strats are made in the states, but the mim strats are sent to mexico to be finished. The main difference is likley going to be the quality wood used and hardware/pickups. I got a used mim strat from gc that rivals most mias ive played and looked gorgeous for cheap and threw in my own pickups and hardware to make an amazing strat. But you really have to play it first to know if its a good guitar to begin with.



umm.. this was somewhat true years ago but fender has seperate and independent facilites on each side of the border now. even the necks for MIMs are made in mexico now. as for the rest i agree that you can find some real nice MIM strats that with a little love can equal a US made one.
#21
so I went today after work and to my disappointment, the used MIA strat that I wanted had a nasty dent on the top cutaway where the neck meets the body; in the pictures, it was barely visible due to the angle, but while playing, you can see there the paint is cracked inwards. I tried a few MIAs and MIMs and overall the MIAs felt more solid than the MIMs and seemed better set in terms of playability (and they look :cleaner")... one thing I will say is that I preferred the neck on an older MIA strat to the modern C-neck (I think it was an older, thicker C-neck), but the strat body itself had its share of road rash. I'll probably be ordering a MIA strat off MF since they have the taxman special now, or wait until GC does a special so I can try it in-store and still get it at a discounted price. Thanks a lot for all the advice everyone!
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#22
Fair enough. I mean, in terms of new guitars, you're more likely to find better MIA strats than MIM ones. But, in my opinion, it's essentially a matter of superior and more exclusive quality control.
Sincerely, Chad.
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