#1
So I have been playing a Epiphone Les Paul custom for the last three years. I have put seymour duncan JB and Jazz pick ups in the guitar and replaced the bridge with a graphtech one. I have wanted an alpine white studio for a wile and now that I have the money I think I might want to get one. The only problem is I dont have any way of trying one out. the stores nearby only sell fender/ibanez and I can't travel far for one so I was going to order it online. Anyone have any thoughts to if it would be a truly be a good upgrade. I love my epi but I want an alpine white one so im thinking it might as well be a Gibson if i got the money.
#2
Most people will say Gibsons now suck, Epiphone is better, Gibson's quality control has been going down, etc.

Don't listen to them. Gibsons are well worth the money and if you don't like it will be able to sell for a lot more than an Epiphone.

Just my $.02, I know people will call me completely wrong on that, but it's an opinion.
#3
From what i hear, the studio Gibson models are very hit and miss, the one time i've ever tried one out the neck/fretboard was horrible, very uncomfortable on the fingers. Most people seem to suggest they are only worth it if you have a chance to test run and see how they play! But i'm only speaking from little experience here
#4
Quote by kennymax89
So I have been playing a Epiphone Les Paul custom for the last three years. I have put seymour duncan JB and Jazz pick ups in the guitar and replaced the bridge with a graphtech one. I have wanted an alpine white studio for a wile and now that I have the money I think I might want to get one. The only problem is I dont have any way of trying one out. the stores nearby only sell fender/ibanez and I can't travel far for one so I was going to order it online. Anyone have any thoughts to if it would be a truly be a good upgrade. I love my epi but I want an alpine white one so im thinking it might as well be a Gibson if i got the money.


def go for the gibby. the alpine white studio is a lighter weight version of the gibson custom. such a fricken deal. would you be opposed to getting used instead of ordering one online. you can save yourself about $600usd. where do you live? if you are in the continental US i would be more than happy to pick up a used onE in my local market, one just went up for $700, looks cherry, and ship it out to you. i come from a little older school (telecaster forum/early craigslist) where it is about a community and think UG can use a little bit of that. i would be happy to help. PM me and then we can exchange numbers and talk on the phone and so forth.
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#5
i didnt liked it that much (studio ) when i was trying out one at the nearer shop.
for upgrading purpose ,honestly speaking - the standard one is more acceptable to me,

save a little bit more, then get a standard one! its awsome

i have felt if i bought the studio now, some day later i might feel for the standard les paul ! coz that tone is still saved in my head!!

1 best guitar is more acceptable to me than 3/4 average guitars.
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#6
Given what you've done to your Epi, I suspect you won't find the Gibson that much of a move up...

That being said, if you can afford it, get what you want. Life's too short...
#7
Moving to Gibson would be a good move. They're fantastic guitars no matter what anyone tells you.

Have you ever played a Gibson Studio model? I'm not a huge fan of the Studios. If you have any way of playing one before buying, I'd recommend it (I know you said you can't, just saying). I love all the other Les Paul models. The Studios' necks just feel too thick and bulky to me.
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#8
Quote by Arby911
Given what you've done to your Epi, I suspect you won't find the Gibson that much of a move up...

That being said, if you can afford it, get what you want. Life's too short...


look he is already feeling an upgrade to his guitar ,its not for you its for him who wana upgrade besides his custom guitar.so he must be looking for something.

obviously studio wont represent the actual Gibson. and if you know u can get one,if u save a little more, why not wait a little longer ?you will not be disappointed.
#9
How old is your Epi? If it's one of the Korean ones then that with upgrades isn't much different than a Gibson Studio. If it's one of the newer Chinese ones then the Gibson will be a little more of a step up but really it's not going to be such a sure-fire lock that you should order one blind. Lots of people will tell you that either Gibson's quality control has gone down, gone up or is random. Most people haven't actually been playing lots of Gibsons over the last twenty years so really they're just guessing. One thing that isn't guesswork though is that the necks on Gibsons and their weight are kind of random. I've tried three or four Studios and not bothered with them because the ones with a comfortable neck were really heavy and the ones that were a reasonable weight had gigantic necks. I'm not one of those Ibanez fans who insists on a paper-thin neck, I like a chunky neck but some Gibsons do go way beyond chunky.

I think it'd be worth you looking at other cities near to you, see if there's a store within a reasonable train journey that has some Studios in stock. Even if they're not the white Studios, at least try SOME Studios out so you can get a good idea of the general quality and how much they might vary.
#10
Quote by thejester
def go for the gibby. the alpine white studio is a lighter weight version of the gibson custom. such a fricken deal. would you be opposed to getting used instead of ordering one online. you can save yourself about $600usd. where do you live? if you are in the continental US i would be more than happy to pick up a used onE in my local market, one just went up for $700, looks cherry, and ship it out to you. i come from a little older school (telecaster forum/early craigslist) where it is about a community and think UG can use a little bit of that. i would be happy to help. PM me and then we can exchange numbers and talk on the phone and so forth.


God I hope this guy is legit. This board needs more people like this. I hooked a guy up looking for a green EC-1000 a while back like this because they had 3 for sale in my area and he couldn't find any.
#11
if you go for a studio get one of the higher end studios, they have much better features and far superior imo.

models such as the silverburst have a thinner neck and coil splitting and look awesome.
studios are hit and miss imo though.
#12
Quote by OceansBetweenUs
God I hope this guy is legit. This board needs more people like this. I hooked a guy up looking for a green EC-1000 a while back like this because they had 3 for sale in my area and he couldn't find any.

Me too, it would be good to see this sort of thing here. A computer forum I used to frequent (OCAU) had good spirit like this where people were willing to help out and there was a great trading post where you could trust 99.99% of the sellers.
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#14
I had the guitar you're looking at. I had it for three years. I sold it last month and bought a PRS SE Semi-hollowbody for $600. Half the price and triple the quality. Don't get a Les Paul Studio. Go look at some PRS SE's, Schecters, Ibanez, or stick with your Epi. Where in Washington do you live?
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#15
what will you gain? i can tell you right now, you will notice nothing with that move...except how much money you spent.

stock epi to gibson? yeah. gibson is a better guitar. my opinion is that the studios are quiteweak. i spent about 2 weeks comparing my epi les custom to my buddies studio. i saw almost no difference in any catagory. there were slight differences, but non to justify a 2x price tag.

with your guitar, you alread put better pickups and hardware than on the gibson. undoubtedly, your epi WILL sound better unless there is something fundaentaly wrong with your guitar.

save your money, and get it professionally setup and rock your epi.

i will always comment that any high end gibson is a fantastic guitar, and thier studio models pale in comparison.
studio = mercedes
high end gibsons = maybach

in conclusion, your trying to pay for name. dont do it. no performance gain. IF you did not put the pickups and bridge on, then yeah might be a better move.
#16
YES!

thank you. PRS SE models are easily the better guitars on the market for quality:cost ratio right along with any Carvin.

went to a jazz festival at my college thrown by the music school. jazz guitar majors who composed thier own concert from scratch performed, about 6-8 of them. one was rocking a PRS SE semi-hollow. it souded great right along with gibson L-5s and other hollowbodies, and a few other custom hollowbodies.

i would much rather have any PRS SE over any gibson studio. ive seen these go for 350 used. its horrible such fine guitars have such a low street value.
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#17
well my epi was made in china but it seems like a great guitar. I am also In love with my casino. I guess im just itching for another guitar. I really like the look of the epi wilshire but not sure about the quality, I have read mixed reviews
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#18
well sometimes the asian guitars tend to vary by where and when they were made. for example aparently there was a vintage line or something put out by epiphone about 10 years ago or something and they are supposed to be of VERY good quality. like good enough to be coveted guitars.

but im just sayin, you put 2 of the most famous SD pickups and put one of the best bridges on the market in it. so your epiphone is sounding pretty damn good i imagine.
#19
You can put good pickups in a piece of shit and it'll still sound ok given that its set up well and you're putting it through a quality rig, doesn't mean that the guitar isn't a piece of shit though. (Not saying that Epis suck or are pieces of crap, just giving an example).

I don't necessarily think that Gibsons are the best values out there, and the only time I would suggest someone to buy one is if they are hell bent on getting a les paul, or an SG or 335, etc and won't be satisfied otherwise until they get the authentic product (which is fine). If you have your heart set on a Gibson, then don't get an Epiphone, but if you just want a solid guitar that is a pretty good value, then you're fine with the Epiphone.

I've owned my Gibson for about 10 years now and I'm currently having a very hard time shelling out money for Epiphones. They don't feel right to me, and they don't sound right to me. And I know that guitars differ from guitar to guitar, but this is something that has become a common trend.
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#20
i think the only thing that may be holding me back is my amp, im using a peavy vyper 60. im bored of it and im tired of muddy distortion.
Last edited by kennymax89 at Apr 13, 2011,
#21
yep that would be it. and a better guitar wont be heard through a mediocre or bad amp. i mean, so to speak the better quality of the guitar will not be apparent.

also, you have no pedals? even when i practice with solid states at college, i still run pedals on the clean channel for distorted tones. generally solid states have horrid on board distortion. well generally solid states have horrid onboard everything but the clean channel....hence my use of pedals.

i recommend trying out some pedals or higher quality (perhaps a tube) amp to see if it gives you what your looking for. heck, go into guitar center and use an epiphone and play through a viper with a pedal, and then through a nice tube amp. see how stuff sounds. you might find the right thing your looking for isnt a guitar.

i know a lot of people who play through mexican or asian guitars and just because of thier rigs sounds far better than others. prime example? my roomies band. lead plays a mexican fender through BOSS or better pedals into a fender tube. other guy plays a USA strat through randomly assorted cheaper pedals through a fender frontman solid state.

guess who sounds WORLDS better? its not the guy with the USA strat.
#22
If your going to get a Gibson try to get a used 90s studio modell. They where really nice

But i would rather check out some PRS SE or a used PRS USA.
#23
Quote by OceansBetweenUs
God I hope this guy is legit. This board needs more people like this. I hooked a guy up looking for a green EC-1000 a while back like this because they had 3 for sale in my area and he couldn't find any.


i am man, actually going up to see a friend this weekend in a sacramento and bringing a guitar for this person i have never met, this impossible to find used epi casino. just trying to help folks out. checked out the TS profile, he is in washington dc area, huge metro areas that are closer to him where someone could help but im here if he needs me.
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#24
You're epi wouldn't sound that different in contrast to that Studio you want. If you look at it pure from a sound perspective, investing in a new amp would be your best bet. But, if you really want that Gibson, who are we to stop you from doing that? Don't listen to the whole Gibson sucks and Gibson Rulezzzz arguments you might find. Take a trip to a store to find one you can actually play, then decide what to do. It's all in the eyes of the beholder. Some people might not like the tone a new gibbo produces, maybe you will. Don't let other people put you off of something you truly want.
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#25
NEVER!!!!!! at least try the esp eclipse first
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#26
I was at Guitar Center about a week ago trying out some guitars. First I tried the EC-1000 to see how it compared to my Eclipse (not even close, but very good for the price as it was a blemished model), a PRS SE Singlecut, a Gibson Alpine White Studio with an ebony fingerboard and a Gibson Studio Faded (or whatever those barely finished ones are). The Gibsons were by far the worst guitars I tried out that day. Maybe I was just unlucky, but all the Gibson Studios I've tried haven't been for me, they were just uncomfortable to play. The PRS SE Singlecut, on the other hand, was phenomenal. If I had the cash to blow on one, I would probably be the proud owner of one right now.