#1
Well i need a new guitar (My POS no-name $70 one doesn't cut it anymore) and my price range is around 500-600 and really, only the Electromatic ProJet and the Sheraton I interest me in this price range. Anyone out there have any experiences w/ these two and would like to give a word of advice, or two?

Thanks ^_^
#3
Gretsch all the way dude.
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#4
from what i remember from playing a pro-jet a while ago it had quite a bright and punchy sound with a lot of clarity, and a decent amount of twang without the twang being overpowering - nicely balanced, focussed sound. exactly what you'd expect from a gretsch.

i have a sheraton II and it's got a very mellow, woody kind of tone to it, very warm and rounded, and a bit thicker sounding in comparsion, but a bit less note definition. it's just got that classic woody epiphone sound.

as well as the difference in sound, you have to take the difference in body size into consideration - the sheraton has a double cutaway which might help with upper fret access, but the body is a lot larger than the pro-jet, however the pro-jet body may be thicker - can't remember. also remember the sheraton is a semi-hollow, you might get some microphonic feedback problems if you're playing at higher volumes with a lot of gain.

you should pick based on which you prefer because they are too different to really compare in terms of which is the "better" of the two. but both are very nice guitars for the price
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#5
Quote by Lennon993
Well i need a new guitar (My POS no-name $70 one doesn't cut it anymore) and my price range is around 500-600 and really, only the Electromatic ProJet and the Sheraton I interest me in this price range. Anyone out there have any experiences w/ these two and would like to give a word of advice, or two?

Thanks ^_^

well i've never heard of any of those guitars. but i play ibanez and i love them. and their standard series stuff you will find is very reliable and can take a beating. and you can find them in the 5 to 6 hundred range.
#6
TS, what are you planning on playing? What styles?
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#7
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well i've never heard of any of those guitars. but i play ibanez and i love them. and their standard series stuff you will find is very reliable and can take a beating. and you can find them in the 5 to 6 hundred range.



can i just say that this is what is wrong with UG. i'm not trying to be bitchy here, but you didn't do your research. you recommended something completely incongruous with what TS was asking for. Do a little research first and if you have no experience don't answer. not trying to be cruel i'm just saying.

TS i personally prefer the Gretsch because it's a little bit more biting tonally and i think they look awesome. But really it depends on what music you'll be playing and whether you want a tremolo or not. either way both guitars are rlly good.
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#8
UG: when in doubt, ibanez+peavey 5150.

seriously though, i would recommend the gretsch. not enough of those being played these days. but I also really like the epiphone. its really like a choice between cake and pie. there is no wrong answer.
#9
Quote by EPPX
well i've never heard of any of those guitars. but i play ibanez and i love them. and their standard series stuff you will find is very reliable and can take a beating. and you can find them in the 5 to 6 hundred range.


Are you ****ing serious?

Here's a hint on when to not post. If your first sentence starts off with: "Well, I've never heard of any of those ___(blank)___, but..." then you probably should not post.

What the TS asked for was a comparison between this Guitar:


and this guitar:


and you recommend this guitar:


He didn't ask for other guitars in that price range. He didn't even say what genre of music he want to play on this guitar, he didn't need to. He already had his two choices in a guitar picked. So, assuming you have complete control over your mental facilities, I must ask what the **** was going through your head when you posted that?
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#10
I love the look of the Sheraton II myself, but if it doesnt have the sound you want then you shouldnt get it.

Hope this makes sense.
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#11
Sometimes i swear on this forum if i didnt laugh at this stuff id cry!!

To TS i would Personally lean towards the grestch as their just very well built guitars and have a very good tone especially when you crank it through a nice tube amp. The Epi on the other hand would be nice but can sometimes need a pickup change before you get the sound your after.
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#12
Personally I'd go with the Gretsch.
It's 80% preference though, Epi Sheratons are really good as well. For some styles you need a pickup change on a Sheraton though (particularly the slightly distorted sounds in my opinion), which you'll be less likely to need on that Gretsch.

PS. Ultimate-Guitar rule of thumb: If your post starts with "I don't know about x, but..." you might not want to post.
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#13
I have an Epi Sheraton II that's a 1999 Korean-made tobacco burst model. Looks like this:



One of my best friends has a Gretsch 5120 (not quite the same as what you asked about):



I like the Sheraton II. It sounds great unplugged, is built very solidly, has an awesome 5-piece thin set neck, and the pickups are pretty good as well, though not to be confused with 57s or anything like that. The gold hardware tarnishes after a while and the gold will wear off in places where you touch it a lot. The guitar is all maple so you have strong treble tones mixing with the woodiness of the semi-hollow -- sometimes a little too strong really.

My friend's Gretsch is a great guitar. It's built beautifully and in comparison to the Sheraton II has a more twangy rockabilly sound (not really what I prefer personally, but he does). His has a Bigsby, which I think is overrated, but it stays mostly in tune. But the basic playability of both guitars is about the same.

I don't know what your financial situation is, but something to consider is price. I got my Sheraton II for $350 on Craigslist. The older Korean models are supposed to be better made than the current Chinese ones, and the new ones as you know go for $600. My friend spent $700 on his Gretsch and you don't see a lot of them on places like Craigslist. If price was no object -- or if I really really wanted that country twang -- I'd get the Gretsch. And the Gretsch is more likely to impress. But there's no way his guitar is worth twice what I paid for mine. Either way you can't go wrong.
#14
I think they are both great, but go with gretsch. I've played the one you are talking about and it needs to be played to be appreciated, I think.
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#15
Oh UG, you so silly. What with your bad advice and OPs only telling you half the story and necrobumps. Seriously, no need for Ibenezes when you've been told "Hey I've done my research and narrowed it down to these two" but at the same time, with guitars as different as these it's kind of foolish not to tell us "btws, I play this style and if it helps here's my other gear." Whatever though mild flame wars like this are semi-entertaining.

Anyways OP if you haven't made up your mind yet, as this thread is old now, here's my 2 cents:

Judging by your user name, you're a Beatles fan. That helps and yet it doesn't. The Duo Jet will definitely get you Beatles tones, but they'd be George's not John's since George used Duo Jets and Country Gents. The Sheraton will get you close to John's tone but as its not a Casino, it'll be a little thicker and warmer. You could swap in some pickups for better clarity since stock epi pickups suck these days, maybe even some humbucker sized p-90s and that'll get ya closer. but that more money.

So there ya go, if you want John's sound go Epi, if you want Beatles in general go DJ.
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#16
So a very well-known New York City luthier did a setup on my Sheraton II this weekend. When I dropped it off he checked and said that the frets on the Sheraton are just about perfect, "better than the frets on most of the expensive handmade guitars" he sees every day.

I gave him a blank check basically to do any fretwork he thought was necessary and he did none. So there's a +1 for Korean Sheraton IIs (can't say whether the Chinese models would be the same or not).

OTOH, he did say that the nut was poorly cut. So maybe that's an upgrade for another day.
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#17
I've owned both and both very nice totally different tonally but the gretsch just has this sound I fell in love with its a personal preference
#18
Quote by Blompcube
from what i remember from playing a pro-jet a while ago it had quite a bright and punchy sound with a lot of clarity, and a decent amount of twang without the twang being overpowering - nicely balanced, focussed sound. exactly what you'd expect from a gretsch.


I had a pro jet for a good while, I'd say this is very accurate.
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