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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ontario/ontario-court-strikes-down-canadas-pot-laws/article1983105/

So Ontario courts removed all laws regarding marijuana stating it's unconstitutional. Essentially the Federal Government has 90 days to improve its laws or it will become legal to grow and possess marijuana in Ontario for any and all. Thoughts?

Personally, I think it's about time. It's no secret that marijuana has numerous benefits both medical and otherwise. It's also nice to see that our courts have the balls to do what our politicians won't. This will have a major impact on Canada as historically, Ontario is always the first province to legislate progressive policies (notably: gay marriage, medical marijuana laws, and currently prostitution is in the works) and then the rest of the provinces quickly catch up. Exciting times.
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#3
Fuck yes!
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Hopefully the US follows, well at least Michigan
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Immediately after the election the Parliament will pass new laws ensuring that it doesn't become legal. The US will put massive pressure on them, as will the UN given that they've signed treaties making this stuff illegal; that's why countries like Portugal and The Netherlands decriminalised rather than legalised.
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Prostitution? There's no ****ing beneifits for that.

seewhatididthere?

But seriously, thats messed up. No prostitution, Ontario. You guys are nice guys. Don't pay to get your dicks wet.


I think it has more to do with protecting prostitutes then it does getting our dicks wet.
#12
I don't agree with Ontario's "progressive policies."

It should remain illegal.
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#13
wowowowowowow whaaaaaat lol why did I not hear about this??

Maybe I should watch abit more canadian news? damn cnn.
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Immediately after the election the Parliament will pass new laws ensuring that it doesn't become legal. The US will put massive pressure on them, as will the UN given that they've signed treaties making this stuff illegal; that's why countries like Portugal and The Netherlands decriminalised rather than legalised.


Not necessarily. The only options the Federal government has is to change the laws making medical marijuana more accessible (which I can't see Harper's government doing), or to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada (which they will undoubtedly do). However failing that, parliament can pass whatever laws they want, if they're deemed unconstitutional by the provincial courts they won't take effect in that province. The Federal government relies on the provinces to enforce their laws as there is no federal police.
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I don't agree with Ontario's "progressive policies."

It should remain illegal.


No, you're wrong.

Actually, you can't be wrong, because it's your opinion, and everyone is entitled their opinion.

You're still wrong.
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Immediately after the election the Parliament will pass new laws ensuring that it doesn't become legal. The US will put massive pressure on them, as will the UN given that they've signed treaties making this stuff illegal; that's why countries like Portugal and The Netherlands decriminalised rather than legalised.


I can't imagine the UN even considering wasting it's time on what one province in one of there bigger supporters handles one plant. Also let the US pressure us, it's like 80% of both of our economies are dependent on trading with each other, they'll never seriously risk crippling there economy over this.
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#17
You know, I'm not into this whole weed smoking, hippie peace love crap, but I don't mind people doing it. Just know, yes it can fry you pretty good and yes, bad things can come out of it. Just don't be smoking it everywhere I go and all up in my face.

We have apparatuses that test for marijuana consumption (those tongue-licky things I've heard of), and if this gets legalized you can guarantee there will be like 3 times the amount of road blocks you're used to and you can guarantee a shitload of people are going to get arrested for DUI without remorse and I can guarantee the chemical limit will be zero. Not that 0.08 (0.00 for 21 and under, or is it under 21...). Eventually the alcohol limit will get to 0.00, so good luck getting any number above zero for a limit on marijuana content.

That's what people don't realize; sure, legalize it! It's just gonna become like booze, eventually they'll find a way to tax it or jump the prices, (ANYONE who lives in Ontario knows we are the #1 province for RETARDED booze prices and Darwin award winning tax jumps) and yes, it's ''just weed'', which can land you ''just in jail'' for ''just a DUI'' or ''just a public consumption of (...)''. You get where I'm going. Not only that, but good luck getting a job if they know your habits, the law may have changed, but some peoples' opinions may not (INCLUDING YOUR POSSIBLE EMPLOYER). If they know of your habits somehow, all they have to do is shut their mouths and write a bullshit reason not to hire you, it's common practice, it happens all the time and it's probably happened to you. Same thing with booze; if my future boss actually does a legit background check on me and does some snooping and finds that I like to get drunk every Tuesday and play poker. Well booze is legal, but unfortunately for me my boss doesn't like that it shows ''immaturity'' and ''lack of responsibility'' in his eyes. A few weeks later, I call him for an update and he says ''ya sorry we found someone else..... Had more experience, better skill set (blahblahblah)''. The same would apply with marijuana consumption, except I think the judgment would be much worse in that case. So don't get too hyped up kiddos, because with every good thing that happens, there's always about ten friggin' bad things that come with it. That's life for ya.
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Quote by i_am_teh_walrus
Not necessarily. The only options the Federal government has is to change the laws making medical marijuana more accessible (which I can't see Harper's government doing), or to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada (which they will undoubtedly do). However failing that, parliament can pass whatever laws they want, if they're deemed unconstitutional by the provincial courts they won't take effect in that province. The Federal government relies on the provinces to enforce their laws as there is no federal police.

I can't see why they would baulk at the prospect of making Medical MJ more accessible but allow Cannabis to become legally available instead.


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I can't imagine the UN even considering wasting it's time on what one province in one of there bigger supporters handles one plant. Also let the US pressure us, it's like 80% of both of our economies are dependent on trading with each other, they'll never seriously risk crippling there economy over this.

The problem is that Canada signed the treaty, the UN would have to take issue with it unless Canada pulls out of the treaty under article 30 (in which case the UN might ignore it).
Also, don't underestimate the power of the US anti-drugs lobby, there is a massive amount of money and power for them at stake here and a massive amount of people mobilised by that great motivator: fear. They would not have to risk crippling their economy, diplomatic pressure is always much more subtle than that, this stuff is usually "you scratch my back..." stuff, more carrot than stick.

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Actually, you can't be wrong, because it's your opinion, and everyone is entitled their opinion.

Erm, opinions can be wrong.
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Immediately after the election the Parliament will pass new laws ensuring that it doesn't become legal. The US will put massive pressure on them, as will the UN given that they've signed treaties making this stuff illegal; that's why countries like Portugal and The Netherlands decriminalised rather than legalised.


I believe I read somewhere not too long ago that EU countries are allowed to consider full legalisation now, not sure on the details of this (and for the decriminalised countires, this might not be high on their priorities as they're already seeing benefits from this direction and may be looking to improve other areas) but I'll try to find some!

I hope this leads to full legalisation!

(Also the legalisation of prostitution is a good thing in my eyes, works in NZ anyway )
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We legalised Marijuana before it was popular.

As soon as I saw you had posted in here I knew you would be gloating >_>
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http://www.drugtext.org/Cannabis-marijuana-hashisch/cannabis-use-and-cognitive-decline-in-persons-under-65-years-of-age.html
There were no significant differences in cognitive decline between heavy users, light users, and nonusers of cannabis.


Just don't be smoking it everywhere I go and all up in my face.

I'd assume that a place with legalized weed would have laws against that sort of thing.


That's what people don't realize; sure, legalize it! It's just gonna become like booze, eventually they'll find a way to tax it or jump the prices, (ANYONE who lives in Ontario knows we are the #1 province for RETARDED booze prices and Darwin award winning tax jumps)

Weed prices are already artificially high because of the black market. Legalization would decrease the price dramatically even with the taxes added on.
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You know, I'm not into this whole weed smoking, hippie peace love crap...

I don't smoke pot either, but I do happen to be into the hippie peace and love awesomeness. Anyways great analysis of what the government will do with legalized weed, but I still think the pros far outweigh the cons of legal weed.
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Erm, opinions can be wrong.


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Nice, nice.

HEY UK GOVERNMENT

GET WITH THE ****ING PROGRAM

SERIOUSLY

I'm happy for Ontario but mother**** our drug situation, man.
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They can't.

If you're convinced that they can, share your wisdom.

"In my opinion 87 is a larger number than 50."


You are confusing the fact that opinions about subjective things like taste in music and literature indeed cannot be said to be wrong, however opinions on factual things, like the existence of gravity, that the sky is blue, etc, can indeed be wrong.
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They can't.

If you're convinced that they can, share your wisdom.

It's my opinion that opinions can be wrong.

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Nice, nice.

HEY UK GOVERNMENT

GET WITH THE ****ING PROGRAM

SERIOUSLY

I'm happy for Ontario but mother**** our drug situation, man.

Just as bad here, man. Our current drug advisor thinks marijuana causes schizophrenia and brain damage. Oh and it's very addictive of course.
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As soon as I saw you had posted in here I knew you would be gloating >_>

That's about the same as saying to a Baker "Lol I totally knew you were going to bake some bread today!"
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"In my opinion 87 is a larger number than 50."


You are confusing the fact that opinions about subjective things like taste in music and literature indeed cannot be said to be wrong, however opinions on factual things, like the existence of gravity, that the sky is blue, etc, can indeed be wrong.


I stand corrected.

Although I don't think that you can have an opinion on facts, in that way. 87 is a larger number than 50. Gravity affects us. Those are facts, and you can't really have an opinion whether or not they are true. At least that's how I see it.
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Just as bad here, man. Our current drug advisor thinks marijuana causes schizophrenia and brain damage. Oh and it's very addictive of course.

There may be hope for you, at least. Our government went all ICP on the issue and put all the power in the hands of one woman without any knowledge of drugs from a medical, chemical, or experiential point of view.
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There may be hope for you, at least. Our government went all ICP on the issue and put all the power in the hands of one woman without any knowledge of drugs from a medical, chemical, or experiential point of view.

They went pretty ICP on scientific advise as well, "dont walk to talk to no scientist/all they do is lie and gettin' me pissed".

Oh god... what if the british goverment are ICP? I've never seen the two in the same room before.
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Oh god... what if the british goverment are ICP? I've never seen the two in the same room before.


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